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Is Lasciel really a fallen angel?

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b4utoo:
I'll don't see how I insulted anyone or thread. I made a statement. It was clearly stated they are the fallen. It really seems your singling me out over a grudge. Because I didn't word it to your liking. Conspiracy Theory goes off in that direction all the time, where were you then?

b4utoo:
I went and deleted every topic I posted just in case there was a slight chance it would offend anyone.

Yuillegan:
It really isn't my problem if you can't understand what you did wrong.

I have given you more than enough chances, and instead of learning from them you have reacted childishly.

You were warned, and now you will have to live with the consequences. Failure to adhere to forum rules after repeated warnings results in a ban.

Ed0517:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on December 27, 2021, 02:05:58 PM ---The TV show Lucifer had it that Angels self actualised, beyond gender this covered their powers, mortality, wings and ability to reproduce..

Everything would appear to indicate Lasciel is a “Fallen” Angel unless you are saying that there are actually no “Fallen” angels, only angels playing the part on behest of the White God as part of his/her ineffable plan, but how could we know? It’s effing ineffable!

This would mean the Knights of the Cross are nothing but unwitting Participants in the ultimate LARP (except Butters where it is certainly quite witting on his part, he is the biggest geek in the Multiverse).

The other angel we know about is Mac, who retired. Did he retire just because he got fed up with the LARPing? Doesn’t seem to have done him any good, so you would think he would spill the beans and sing like a canary to the mortals.

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We did see, briefly, at least two more, in Ghost Story. The security guard, whi shuts down Harry's Sight for his own good, and the Angel sent to escort Forthill to the afterlife if he died. That last angel presented as female.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Con on December 29, 2021, 02:59:05 PM ---My favourite fan theory is Lasciel was once Ishtar a Bablynoian Goddess of Love and War.... but admittedly Jim has said any fan theory he has to have to learned Ancient Babylonian for is unlikely.
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I'm pretty sure "Ishtar" exists in the original (1e) AD&D "Deities & Demigods" book, and Jim's a known gamer.

Also, "Ishtar" is sort of cognate to Astarte & several other middle-eastern goddesses... including Asherah, an ancient Semitic goddess (who may have historically been the consort/wife/etc of Yaweh... )

"Ancient Babylonian" isn't the only way to get to Ishtar (or to one of the other ancient goddesses with links to love and/or eros...) .

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