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seanham:
There has been a lot of speculation about the White Council and a possible connection with the Senior Council. Regardless of the truth in that debate, what is known and clear is that the Senior Council (and maybe other members as well) know about Demonreach and are afraid of its power. After all, that was the main reason why the entire Council fought against Kemmler, to prevent him from returning to the Island. So my question is since the Council knew of the Island's power and were afraid of it, why didn't they have one of their own people bind it? Why would they leave that power open for any foolish young wizard to capture it for themselves?

Cozarkian:
I'm not sure the entire Senior Council knows the truth about Demonreach. Facts about Demonreach include:

1. It has a powerful genus loci and leyline.
2. It is a prison for powerful beings
3. The Warden has the ability to free/control the prisoners.
4. ???

The Senior Council knows #1 and probably #2. They might not realize #3 and if there is a #4, I don't think most of them know. Depending on their state of knowledge, I see the following reasons nobody became the Warden before Harry:

1. None of them live nearby and it isn't very useful unless you tend to be on the island. It might be dangerous to travel too using the Ways and inconvenient to do so in person. The dark ley line is potentially dangerous and associated with Warlocks, so none of the Senior Council would trust another Senior Council member that took control.

2. See #1 - plus there is generally no perceived need for it as the dangerous creatures have been largely imprisoned already.

3. See #1 and 2 - plus no Senior Council member will permit another to have that kind of power.

4. ???

Also, maybe the cost and risk of failing to bind it is simply too high. By the same token, there isn't a strong risk of foolish young wizard taking control because 1) Demonreach discourages vistiors and 2) young foolish wizards might not be able to take it over. Harry is young and foolish, but substantially more powerful than most young and foolish wizards.

RobReece:
What connection are you talking about between Kemmler and the Island? The whole council went after him because the whole council was needed.  Between his own power and the Kemmlerites, they were a huge threat, look at the wars he was responsible for.  I don't think I've seen anything that connects him to the Island.   

If I missed something,  let me know...

seanham:

--- Quote from: RobReece on December 06, 2021, 09:28:20 PM ---What connection are you talking about between Kemmler and the Island?

--- End quote ---

Kemmler was the last Warden of Deamonreach. I think the WOJ, or somewhere in the books, said that the reason for them fighting (or WW2???) was all to prevent Kemmler from returning to the Island; if someone could provide the exact wording, that would be appreciated!

Conspiracy Theorist:
Kemmler was the last Warden but one before Harry, it is indeed in A WOJ offered when Jim was asked about the Warden before Harry, and wouldn’t say, so it obviously plays into a significant plot point, and may have been someone we know or heard about. One of the deceased Senior Council perhaps? Obviously they hadn’t been to the island for some time.

My thought was that Warden was put in place to prevent Kemmler returning and reclaiming the wardenship, and really nothing more, but his role was enough to mark him for death.

I think it was LaFortier, whose murder in Turncoat is unexplained as regards motive, but what if it was a play for the wardenship, but before the Black Council could get their Warden in place Harry does a Sanctum Invocation. That’s the motive for his murder, to free up Demonreach and access to its prisoners. The mind control by Peabody was Plan A, but it wasn’t working or working fast enough. Murder was Plan B but then everything went all Dresden.  La Fortier had interests in other parts of the world, once Warden he probably ignored Demonreach.

It also explains the interest in the Black Council with Chicago, Harry had settled right next to Demonreach, so his early cases were them aiming various people at Harry to get rid of him, Dead Beat was to tap into Demonreach’s ley line to power the Dark Hallow, Cold Days and Battle Ground had Nemesis making direct plays to break in.

The Black Council were never really interested in Harry, they were interested in Demonreach, looking to get one of their own as Warden and then a powerful rogue young Wizard moved to nearby Chicago, and ends up going to Demonreach in Small Favour. That may have panicked the Black Council, and why they set the captain of Wardens on him, not just because he wasn’t subject to Peabody’s influence.

The Black Council must really, really hate Harry, time and time again he buggers up their plans by accident.

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