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Harry should have trusted Ramirez
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on January 03, 2022, 10:42:05 AM ---I would agree, but women died around him and Harry was lonely prior to the death curse. I think it's more to do with Harry's fate, his lifestyle.
To quote the Gatekeeper "the Council knows as much as it needs to". But Harry's education was fairly patchy too so I am not sure he is a good indicator of "common" knowledge.
I doubt many apart from the Fae know about the Ladies tendency to kill (or attempt to kill) potential mates. This is dangerous information to be known by others, because a clever person could work out the mantle was defending itself, and therefore believes it is vulnerable. If someone wished to unmake a mantle, to seriously unbalance a Court of Faerie, they could attempt to seduce a Lady. This is the mantle's defence mechanism.
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It is nut just Harry and his lack of knowledge is explainable.
Ebenezer’s knowledge of the white court and the svartalves and the Sidhe courts does not go far either and he is senior council.
They send a party to Marcone and they are not briefed about einherjar?
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on January 03, 2022, 12:01:49 PM ---It is nut just Harry and his lack of knowledge is explainable.
Ebenezer’s knowledge of the white court and the svartalves and the Sidhe courts does not go far either and he is senior council.
They send a party to Marcone and they are not briefed about einherjar?
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Or is the White Council, especially the Senior Council a lot like a lot of bureaucratic powerful organizations that have been around way too long without change? So embedded in the the contemplation of their own belly buttons and petty fears that they cannot see what really is happening beyond their wizard noses?
This is what Margaret Dresden was fighting against from the get go, in my opinion.
Yuillegan:
--- Quote from: Arjan on January 03, 2022, 12:01:49 PM ---It is nut just Harry and his lack of knowledge is explainable.
Ebenezer’s knowledge of the white court and the svartalves and the Sidhe courts does not go far either and he is senior council.
They send a party to Marcone and they are not briefed about einherjar?
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I am not sure what you mean about Ebenezar...are you saying he doesn't know about Einherjar? I don't quite understand what Ebenezar is supposed to know or have known about the Einherjar or the Svartalves or the Sidhe Courts. His knowledge seems fairly good to me, but it isn't like it's been tested much either. Has he been wrong about a few things in regards to those groups or has he seemingly been unaware of what should be basic information?
Also, what party to Marcone? Is this the White Council going to the Peace Talks?
--- Quote from: Mira on January 03, 2022, 01:19:03 PM ---Or is the White Council, especially the Senior Council a lot like a lot of bureaucratic powerful organizations that have been around way too long without change? So embedded in the the contemplation of their own belly buttons and petty fears that they cannot see what really is happening beyond their wizard noses?
This is what Margaret Dresden was fighting against from the get go, in my opinion.
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Sure, there is definitely some of that going on. However, Jim did point out that Harry has a very limited idea of what the White Council knows or does, particularly when it comes to the Merlin and the other Senior Council members. So we've got a bit of a biased view as we've only seen things from Harry's narrow perspective. Perhaps Jim will give us some insight to how the operate and their knowledge from a better insiders view (e.g. a short story from the Merlin's perspective or something).
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on January 01, 2022, 10:17:15 PM ---I suspect when Harry finds out that Molly was prepared to sleep with Carlos, despite what ended up happening, Harry isn't exactly going to be cool with it. Particularly inner Harry.
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I'm not sure he's going to find out at all. But he wanted her to stop pining after him, so her finding an alternative attachment with an age-appropriate good (at the time, anyway) person seems like about the best case scenario. I'd think he'd be more sorry for her tragic predicament.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on January 04, 2022, 12:38:06 AM ---I am not sure what you mean about Ebenezar...are you saying he doesn't know about Einherjar? I don't quite understand what Ebenezar is supposed to know or have known about the Einherjar or the Svartalves or the Sidhe Courts. His knowledge seems fairly good to me, but it isn't like it's been tested much either. Has he been wrong about a few things in regards to those groups or has he seemingly been unaware of what should be basic information?
Also, what party to Marcone? Is this the White Council going to the Peace Talks?
Sure, there is definitely some of that going on. However, Jim did point out that Harry has a very limited idea of what the White Council knows or does, particularly when it comes to the Merlin and the other Senior Council members. So we've got a bit of a biased view as we've only seen things from Harry's narrow perspective. Perhaps Jim will give us some insight to how the operate and their knowledge from a better insiders view (e.g. a short story from the Merlin's perspective or something).
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White council in peace talks. Ebenezer and Harry explain to the rest of the group what einherjar are when they are already there. They are just not well prepared.
Ebenezer does not know what makes them tick. It is just they are monsters, they eat you, don’t trust them (kill them if you get the chance).
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