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Harry should have trusted Ramirez
morriswalters:
To get trust you have to give it and that's something Harry has almost never done. You don't buy it on street corners with cheap coins. You buy it by trusting when trusting can cost you. Jim over the course of the books created one character that Harry came to trust. Murphy. And Jim slammed the door on that.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on December 20, 2021, 05:58:34 AM ---To get trust you have to give it and that's something Harry has almost never done. You don't buy it on street corners with cheap coins. You buy it by trusting when trusting can cost you. Jim over the course of the books created one character that Harry came to trust. Murphy. And Jim slammed the door on that.
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Not exactly true, Harry trust Michael, Sanya, Butters, [even when Butters didn't trust him for a while] Thomas, Mac, Eb, sort of, Listens to Wind, River Shoulders, and up until he put a fricking tracking device on him secretly, Carlos. As for Murphy, yes, he trusted her, but she didn't always trust him.
morriswalters:
Your statement is unsupported by the books. He's concealed almost everything from everybody at one time or another. Including famously, himself. He is the poster boy of trust issues.
vincentric:
Don't confuse secrecy with distrust.
Harry has kept things from people for various reasons. He kept things from Murphy to keep her out of the notice of the magical community and because some knowledge would have put her into ethical dilemmas and/or greater danger. That also how he's treated Molly, Butters and the Alphas. But when the chips were down, he's come clean with all of them. The only thing he's ever kept from Michael was his initial acquisition of Lasciel's Coin. These are members of his intimate family and friends and it includes Thomas and Sanya.
Any ally involved with the magical world gets all the information that is safe for them to know when they're working with him.
But Carlos and the other Wardens are not in his intimate circle. They are trusted coworkers and foxhole buddies. They relax together after battles and have been through some stuff but they don't tell each other everything. This group holds Eb, Listens, River, Anastacia, Rashid and a few others.
Carlo's questioning stepped from the coworker/buddy circle to the family/intimate confidante level. Harry wouldn't let him that close for good and bad reasons. In that situation, Harry may have trusted Carlos, he couldn't trust Warden Ramirez.
ZhonLord:
I'd also like to point out that this may not entirely have been of Harry's own free will. "Die alone". The necromancer's death curse that he's been living under. The full phrase that this is referring to is "You're going to die alone", a phrase often aimed at people who inevitably push others away, find themselves ostracized or outcast, and generally act in ways that cause other people to not associate with them or not WANT to associate with them.
Think about it. When Murphy died, it was noted that Harry was already treating her like she was dead or utterly incapacitated due to her injury - even though she was legitimately able to get back up to 80% (which is still better than Butters had when he first helped save the world). When he saw Butters after becoming the Winter Knight, he didn't stop to say hi and chat with friends, he paid his debt to Bob and got ready to go again - something Butters called him out on.
It may have even had influence on why that Fallen Angel was able to manipulate Harry so easily into choosing to BE the Winter Knight in the first place, and the subsequent actions which SEVERELY harmed Molly's sanity and put her on the path towards becoming the Winter Maiden - forever keeping her from seeking Harry's embrace as she tried to do previously.
Death curses are powerful. They're subtle. They're insidious. Is it really that much of a stretch to think that it nudged Harry in the direction of keeping Ramirez out of it for his own safety, even though such an act basically treats Ramirez as a child who's not big/capable enough to handle himself?
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