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Is Murphy truly dead

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Conspiracy Theorist:
Murphy had previously been a Knight of the Sword, a direct agent of the White God in whose faith she had been inculcated since birth. No wonder she thought she knew better than anyone else. A catholic true believer who had empirical evidence of God’s existence and her significant place in his plan. We are very lucky she didn’t go full Joan of Arc, as her plot Arc.

Except Harry too was an agent of the White God, gifted with Soul Fire which he continued to wield even Murphy had to put down the sword. Empirical evidence even to Murphy that Harry was worthy, which she chose to ignore.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mira on November 18, 2021, 11:05:15 PM ---Yes, she did, in the beginning of Skin Game..  Cold Days, I'd agree, but not in Skin Game.  And it really doesn't matter because she was preaching to him something she didn't believe herself, she made her own rules.Perhaps, but after she preached to Harry about not bringing the Sword.. She secretly brought it, that had nothing to do with failing, it had everything to do about thinking the rules didn't apply to her.
Taking it upon herself to judge Nic when she knew perfectly well it was against the rules had nothing to do with failing, but everything about believing the rules didn't apply to her.  She flat out tells Harry why she cannot be a Knight, she doesn't believe in It's rules.. Then she brings it, breaks the rules governing it, and breaks the Sword.

In other words, like the definition;
That is Murphy's actions in Skin Game in a nutshell...

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Or she brought it because she hoped a knight would appear which in the end happened.

The point is she picked it up in desperation to save Harry and and did not know how to act correctly when she knew Nicodemus was not acting sincerely and the only safe action seemed to be to kill him. She made an error in a highly emotional situation but that does not mean she was hypocritical. It just meant she failed according to the swords rules exactly what she told Harry what could happen with herself.

The idea that she broke the rules deliberately because she thought the rules applied to everyone else but not to her is not supported by the text.

People make mistakes in highly emotional situations. That is all.

Hypocritical is basically a form of lying, a deception. A dishonesty. That is not supported by the text. Karen was honest to Harry.

KurtinStGeorge:
All I know is when Murphy reappears she will be PO'd. 

Murphy - "Harry, why didn't you tell me you talked to my father?"
Harry - "Hey Murph.  Ah, how did you know about that?  I thought you were in Valhalla."
Murphy - "Don't dodge the question mister.  OK, I am there most of the time, but Uriel gave my dad a job that took him to my neighborhood."
Bob - "Gee boss.  She even orders you around from the afterlife."
 

Mira:

--- Quote ---The idea that she broke the rules deliberately because she thought the rules applied to everyone else but not to her is not supported by the text.
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But it is, go back to Skin Game, Harry thinks the Swords need to be used if they were going to be successful on the mission.  Murphy argues all the reasons why they shouldn't be in addition to her not believing in those rules, that is why she cannot be a Knight.. Then hiding it, she brings the Sword of Faith along.  That is deliberately breaking the rules, or thinking they don't apply to her if she hides the Sword that somehow I don't know,maybe she thought doing that made her an unofficial Knight.

--- Quote ---The point is she picked it up in desperation to save Harry and and did not know how to act correctly when she knew Nicodemus was not acting sincerely and the only safe action seemed to be to kill him. She made an error in a highly emotional situation but that does not mean she was hypocritical. It just meant she failed according to the swords rules exactly what she told Harry what could happen with herself.
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Murphy is a trained cop, they are trained to function with their head, not their heart... Fact of the matter had she used her head, she would have accepted Nic's surrender, he would have been screwed and it would have been all over.  Instead she attempted what she said to Harry earlier, she didn't believe Nic or any other Denarian deserved a chance at redemption, so she tried to execute him instead and thus broke the Sword.  If she was doing it to save Harry, there is no evidence that if she had succeeded in killing Nic that Harry wouldn't have been killed anyway.

--- Quote ---Hypocritical is basically a form of lying, a deception. A dishonesty. That is not supported by the text. Karen was honest to Harry.

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Was she?  Why go on and on about why the Swords couldn't or shouldn't be used on the mission, then conceal it on her person and take it with?  That is being dishonest, maybe for what she thought were good reasons, but none the less, dishonest.

Conspiracy Theorist:
For Mira’s point remember Murphy was awake the shoe fetishist Anduriel was listening in on them all the time.

Her falsehood was likely for Anduriel’s benefit, it was her Goodman Grey, the Sword was disguised as a rocket launcher, something which could have killed Blood on his Soul (except maybe not given he was a Denarian on top of his own prodigious healing ability).

It’s exactly the same as Harry treated the Spear in BG, just as a common knife.

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