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Harry creates a portal to Demonreach!

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Conspiracy Theorist:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on November 30, 2021, 03:53:40 PM ---Entrances from the Nevernever exist wherever Jim needs them to exist.

Like mirrors, that from Proven Guilty.  From Harry's closet in the Knight's quarters, Cold Days. In the middle of the train station in Small Favor by both the Hobs and the Gruffs. The Gruffs apparently could use the Oak Cluster as a homing beacon to move directly to Harry's current location no matter where he is, Small Favor. The fetches are drawn to a beacon as well, Proven Guilty. And is how the Grey Council gets to Chicken Pizza, Changes.

Mab can not only get to Harry wherever, she can shut down travel better than the TSA, as she shows in Cold Days. I suspect this last is because she is related to Hecate, the Goddess of crossroads and because she controls the Outer Gates, which may enable dimensional travel in some way.  But that is me being me.

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Jim of course can create whatever he likes, depending upon the amount of repeated questions he is willing to endure at Conventions.But the Jewel is a sonic screwdriver. In the older longer Doctor Who serials the sonic screwdriver was discontinued as it was too easy to use it to get the writers the Doctor out of a weekly plot hole. With the more modern faster paced revival this isn’t so much of an issue.

A journey through the NeverNever isn’t just a journey from A to B it’s a character or story development point, except for Changes where suddenly Harry acquired the Jewel and had to get from A to B rapidly without major character or plot development. Jim needed to speed up that part of the narrative.

Mab was able to shut down access from Winter to the Never Never and the mortal world to give Harry a head start. She didn’t shut down the Never Never to Chicago. She has control over her realm, no particular control over other parts of the Never Never. The are a lot of gods and deities associated with crossroads and doors.

Summoning depends upon whether the being summoned wants to answer that summons or not and whether that summons is strong enough to override that beings will. Mab wanted to go to Demonreach, going via the summoning circle on summons by the Warden means she didn’t have to fight the Demonreach defences to do it. She had an invitation. Still she took a risk, as Harry could have put her down then if he chose.

Use of a name gets attention, sometimes negative, which Harry is good at.

Mira:

--- Quote from: vincentric on November 30, 2021, 08:15:30 PM ---Harry summoned Mab in Cold Days. He used the circle Maeve and Aurora set up and spoke her name three times. That's all it takes if the being called wants to come.

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But Harry is the Warden, isn't he.. So that works, but he didn't summon her in Skin Game and she had to use a speed boat..


--- Quote ---im of course can create whatever he likes, depending upon the amount of repeated questions he is willing to endure at Conventions.But the Jewel is a sonic screwdriver. In the older longer Doctor Who serials the sonic screwdriver was discontinued as it was too easy to use it to get the writers the Doctor out of a weekly plot hole. With the more modern faster paced revival this isn’t so much of an issue.

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For my part I miss the sonic screwdriver, that was part of the fun and I never tired of it over the twenty years or more I've been watching the show..   But guess they want to get relevant, now both the Doctor and the Master are female.. ::)

morriswalters:

--- Quote from: TrueMonk on November 30, 2021, 06:10:01 PM ---Harry was not wasting time going ro the island. He had to pick up the spear. Without it he could not have bound the titan and it was only with the spear the range was to the Lakeshore. To me it seems like often when people here think Harry is stupid it is because key parts of the story is ignored. At Least in this thread it has been two out of two times.

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Harry is a character, so him being stupid doesn't apply.

Just for the record Harry locks down Demonreach in Peace Talks, not before as far as I can tell.  Having the prison eat visitors is like planting a minefield around Leavenworth prison.

Mab is the only character besides Harry that's been inside the prison and Harry was mostly dead when she took him there. I don't think she was summoned and I don't think  Demonreach has a doorbell.


--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on November 30, 2021, 08:59:04 PM ---Mab was able to shut down access from Winter to the Never Never and the mortal world to give Harry a head start. She didn’t shut down the Never Never to Chicago. She has control over her realm, no particular control over other parts of the Never Never.

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--- Quote ---“Indeed,” Sith said. “In fact, this is, for the time being, the only way in or out of Faerie.” I blinked several times. “You mean Winter?” “Faerie,” Sith stated. “All of it.” I choked. “Wait. You mean all of Faerie is on lockdown?”

Butcher, Jim. Cold Days (The Dresden Files, Book 14) (p. 77). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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Conspiracy Theorist:
Mab rescued Harry in Changes from the Cold and Dark of Lake Michigan (her domain), and we know now that Demonreach has power up to the lakeshore so both would have known of the injury to their Knight/Warden Demonreach needed a Warden and was prepared to tolerate her, and with Harry unconscious Mab was under no threat.

b4utoo:
Is anyone a match for demon reach. Besides Uriel

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