The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Battle Ground, Lara, Black Court, White Court, Drakul, Some Stuff in Dead Beat
Arjan:
The gatekeeper won’t say anything. He is keeping the white council uninformed for centuries now.
I think the white council knows the servitors are not really human. Ramirez more or less admitted that but the laws can be freely interpreted to suit the white councils purpose if they want to.
Mira:
--- Quote ---I think the Council isolated Harry so that either someone else can get rid of him for them, or they can squash him without a trial or political maneuvering if and when they feel the need to do so.
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That may be true, but why is it that they won't tell Harry what task he was bred to do, by them I might add. I still think Margaret put a huge monkey wrench in their plans when she chose Malcolm as the father. That totally screwed up their calculations. It could have been the White Council that ordered the murder of Malcolm and accounted for the stupid manner that young Harry was treated at the time.
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Harry used fire magic to kill some Fomor servitors. Personally, I don't see how those guys can be considered as fully human any longer, but that's how Jim wrote it; so, it is what it is.
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Yes, and it was written that way to underline that the charges against Harry were trumped up to convict in a kangaroo court. However the White Council also knows that many others of it's members killed Fomor servitors with magic and didn't want to execute them.. So they altered the sentence.
Conspiracy Theorist:
Agreed, to an extent the servitors had given up their free will to the Fomor, and I suspect in the Dresdenverse Free Will is the indicator of humanity.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on October 11, 2021, 03:33:03 PM ---Agreed, to an extent the servitors had given up their free will to the Fomor, and I suspect in the Dresdenverse Free Will is the indicator of humanity.
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Then it comes down to in the case of the Turtlenecks, did they volunteer for it? In which case their plight is the consequence of their own free choices. However even so, once the choice is made and the physical and other changes happens, is the Turtleneck still human? The same holds true even if it wasn't a free choice. Take Mab, at some point in her life she was human, or perhaps maybe a changling with the free choice to chose her path.. Most would argue that now she is 99.99% fae and .01% human, if she is killed by magic this Halloween, did the wizard who did it violate the First Law of Magic?
morriswalters:
The White Council can be summarized by this quote from Daniel Webster.
--- Quote ---Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.
Daniel Webster
US diplomat, lawyer, orator, & politician (1782 - 1852)
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