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Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on October 13, 2021, 09:28:45 PM ---WOJ please, whilst Jim can re-write his rules as he pleases but this hasn’t been shown in BG, all the immortals zapped by the Eye survived though I think only the Erl King was a genuine immortal not reliant upon a Mantle for his immortality.
What the Eye can do is break reality, little point being an immortal if reality has ended.
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I don't think there are any immortals absent a mantle. The immortal mantle is what makes an immortal immortal (noting that not all mantles confer immortality). The Erlking is the Eldest goblin. "Eldest" is a powerful mantle in Faerie, and there are a few of them.
I'd also guess that either Grimalkin or Cat Sith is the Eldest malk. Scarecrow was the Eldest fetch. And, going out on a limb, the Redcap is the Eldest gnome.
Even outside of the fae, other gods have mantles. Hercules's mantle got passed over to the Hulk, for example.
Con:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on October 13, 2021, 09:28:45 PM ---WOJ please, whilst Jim can re-write his rules as he pleases but this hasn’t been shown in BG, all the immortals zapped by the Eye survived though I think only the Erl King was a genuine immortal not reliant upon a Mantle for his immortality.
What the Eye can do is break reality, little point being an immortal if reality has ended.
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Relevant WOJ
"Is it even like dangerous to Uriel? Or his boss?
If Uriel just stood there in it, yeah, I mean he wouldn't, it could kill him I mean it's- again it's one of those- I mean Uriel is... he's so powerful that he's not even on the scale with everybody else. I mean yeah maybe the Eye of Balor could disintegrate Uriel if Uriel couldn't just immediately teleport anywhere or make the energy go somewhere else or basically do anything at all to defend himself. If he just stood there like a dummy, sure somebody could kill him with the Eye of Balor. He's not going to, freaking archangel."
As for Mantles I was kinda disappointed Hercules isn't around anymore, I've got a fanfic short story in my head of Thor and Hercules having a Bromance.
I do think that Hecate has some correlation with the Fae Queens. Molly's statue in Skin Game and Hades reference are too much groundwork laid for future appearance.
Conspiracy Theorist:
“Maybe” Jim has thought it through.
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 13, 2021, 10:26:18 PM ---Except you leave out that Mab understood how the Eye worked, understanding it, she neutralized any power it may have had to kill her.
on page 394 of Battle Ground, Harry asks her how she withstood it. First observation he made was the Eye was made of hate and destroyed everything it touched. Mab explains how she was able to withstand it.
So it may be a god killing machine, perhaps because most gods don't apply reason, maybe because the don't feel they need to. It makes them vulnerable to the likes of the Eye. Reason, is what Eve gained at the Tree of Knowledge when she took a bite.
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I feel like that quote explains balance in the DF, at least inside 🤔 like... You could apply that same reasoning to Summer and Winter for instance. The opposite is actually Nemesis.
Mira:
--- Quote ---I feel like that quote explains balance in the DF, at least inside 🤔 like... You could apply that same reasoning to Summer and Winter for instance. The opposite is actually Nemesis.
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Maybe, but I think what Mab is getting at is both hate and love are emotions, reason for the most part isn't. You can counter both love and hate with reason.
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