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Mother Winter Blackstaff Back
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote ---The Mothers are immortal, like Mab she couldn’t be killed even with iron. Only the Stone Table which appears to have been set up as part of the Mantles, a deliberate backdoor, could kill them, or on Halloween when all immortals are vulnerable.
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Mabs not unkillable, she was vulnerable to death when that happened by her own words. An Halloween probably isn't the only confluence either. I confess, I wonder if say, the blackstaff isn't a confluence type being placed into an object. It would fit being deaths scythe.
*Mantles DO make you effectively immortal, the issue is not everyone is wearing a mantle. MW is the original being, not a mantle for instance.
morriswalters:
Mab explains it in BG. She tells Harry that she is immortal, not eternal. She is, give or take, about a 1000 years old.
Second Aristh:
The Eye might have killed Mab, but I don't think that beheading her with iron would have done it in BG. Her head would have just grown back in enough time. (Minutes? Hours? Months? Hard to say)
The "a little bit mortal" concept attached to Vadderung and beings outside the NN is that somebody tough enough, smart enough, or lucky enough might be able to put him out of commission for a time, even outside of a confluence situation where it could be permanent.
Also, I think the idea of mantle vs no mantle is largely semantic. Power combined with responsibilities/rules is basically a mantle. The biggest of them just happen to provide limited immortality.
The_Sibelis:
Looking at Harry's explanation of iron, he directly explained why that much iron could kill mab.
Con:
--- Quote from: Second Aristh on October 13, 2021, 03:57:40 AM ---The Eye might have killed Mab, but I don't think that beheading her with iron would have done it in BG. Her head would have just grown back in enough time. (Minutes? Hours? Months? Hard to say)
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I have a theory that the Eye did kill Mab it's just taking longer. Like a mortal wound infected or a curse.
That's what Titania and Mab were talking about at the end of Battle Ground.
--- Quote --- "You understand what has happened" Titania replied quietly
"what it Means"
"I expect you to do your duty" Mab said
Titania's expression flickered in pain "When have I not?"
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It's the flicker of pain that does it.
As for immortal being so powerful they can't interact with the world without mortal free will. It's ore of a hindrance to power than a benefit.
Asking Ferrovax to kill one person is likie asking Mt Vesuvias to kill one Roman.
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