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Kill Molly Carpenter

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Mira:

--- Quote ---I am suspicious about that loosing your soul thing, it might be a very human-centric way of interpreting what is happening. Molly feels the importance of what she is doing, it is not a so called "bullshit" job. She might get a ot of satisfaction out of it.
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But at some point she had to decide if immortality is worth giving up her immortal soul... I think at some point Mab had to make that choice and doesn't think Molly is up to that yet.

morriswalters:
I've always assumed that the Mantles were created in 1066 and that Mab was still human when she road with the William at the Battle of Hastings. Corb says of her.
--- Quote ---“Old woman,” Corb taunted. “I remember you as a bawling brat. I remember your pimply face when you rode with the Conqueror.

Butcher, Jim. Peace Talks (Dresden Files) (pp. 278-279). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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I can't think of a Winter Lady with pimples, much less Mab. Speaking of Molly, Mab said she had another role in mind for Molly.  It might be reasonable to assume she was meant to be Harry's consort.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mira on October 06, 2021, 05:27:35 PM ---But at some point she had to decide if immortality is worth giving up her immortal soul... I think at some point Mab had to make that choice and doesn't think Molly is up to that yet.

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Or maybe it is not given up but changed.


--- Quote from: Bob ---“Um, Complicated. Think of your spirit-self as a seed. Your soul is the earth it grows in. You need both when you die. The way I’ve heard it . . . they sort of blend together to become something new. It’s a caterpillar-butterfly thing.”
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Arjan:

--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on October 06, 2021, 03:19:34 PM ---🤔 if mab started as winter lady and became queen then wouldn't Maeve and sarissa definitely born whilst she was queen?

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That is what I think and I don't see why not.

Conspiracy Theorist:
The worry for Mab is not that Winter is changing both Harry and Molly for the worse, but what if it is a two way street? That they are also changing Winter, and that is what worries Mab.

Harry got Mab to ante up compensation effectively using the rules of Winter against her, not how things usually go between Knight and Queen. Then Molly in The Good People finds an unexpected loophole in the rules and exploits it to the hilt,  the Winter Lady can be Lady Bountiful during Christmas and the Mantle permits it, fully.

The humanity of Harry and Molly are making things uncertain for Mab, no wonder she orders Harry to kill Molly, it would solve the humanity issues of both in a single go making things more predictable. The problem is both performed spectacularly against the Fomor and the Titan, not despite their humanity, but because of it. Even the Redcap, The most loyal, vicious member of the Winter Court has nothing but praise for Molly and he can’t lie.

If Molly becomes Queen, she may not becomes the clone of Mab envisaged, if Winter is changed she might be quite different and retain much more of her self.

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