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Is Cassius death curse in effect already?

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Conspiracy Theorist:
You forget Harry has plot armour is a Starborn and appears to shrug off all forms of predestination - entropy curses, death curses, prophecy all have tried and failed. He is the ultimate champion of free will which means he is the White God’s chosen pain in the ass.

It’s telling that the Gatekeeper has trouble telling futures for Harry, the scene where he defies the White Council on Demonreach leaves the Gatekeeper confused that it’s too early in his timeline, and that he can’t win until Harry does something so incredibly stupid which is the epitome of free will in deciding to bind Demonreach.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on October 01, 2021, 04:37:21 PM ---You forget Harry has plot armour is a Starborn and appears to shrug off all forms of predestination - entropy curses, death curses, prophecy all have tried and failed. He is the ultimate champion of free will which means he is the White God’s chosen pain in the ass.

It’s telling that the Gatekeeper has trouble telling futures for Harry, the scene where he defies the White Council on Demonreach leaves the Gatekeeper confused that it’s too early in his timeline, and that he can’t win until Harry does something so incredibly stupid which is the epitome of free will in deciding to bind Demonreach.

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A couple of things, being star born or not, predestined or not, what Harry's father told him still holds true.  If we die, any of us, we pass through that door alone.

Rashid had no problem seeing his future in Turn Coat, he gave him the odds of surviving against the Senior Council as low off the island, and a lot higher on the island and especially when he realized what Harry did.  I think there are rules that go along with having the eye that Rashid has.  I think it is the eye of the Three Fates, and rule number one is you cannot go around telling anyone what their future is going to be, because there are consequences for doing that, serious ones.

Ed0517:

--- Quote from: I_hate_lotr on September 30, 2021, 03:46:55 AM ---Starting to think it's in effect already. Everyone who is close to him has gotten hurt or killed. Michael is seriously injured. Molly became the winter lady. Murphy has died. Thomas is locked up. Every single person has been hurt or killed or pushed away since that curse has been laid on him.
Which leads to this scary thought, what happens if Maggie is hurt or killed?

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He thought Elaine was dead. His mother was killed, possibly his father, if you listen to Chauncey. Susan got infected by the Reds. Being Harry's buddy has always been an extremely hazardous hobby.

Here's one, though - could the curse HELP Harry? Picture Harry and Maggie walking down a street in Chicago, they just went to Navy Pier or something. Some guy sees someone he hates walk by, decides to shoot him (it IS Chicago), whips out a gun and misses. Bullet goes downrange, hits Innocent Bystander Harry in the head. But Maggie is with him. Maybe Mouse (Mouse is not an ordinary dog). Does he survive? Does it make the bullet miss? Does he lie comatose, or in agony like the guy that got shot in front of Kumori that she cast on?

He was alone on the boat when Kincaid shot him, and I think the likes 0f Ethniu blow away the curse. Maybe even massive physical damage overpowers the curse - hit by bullet, linger. Hit by tank main gun, yeah, magic overruled. 

But could the curse help? Maybe it would help him survive. Preschism, maybe his friends could sit with him until Injun Joe came to start his healing. Now, they may pull Maggie away at the hospital and he dies on the table.

Mira:

  Again, is it a real curse?  We know what Malcolm told him... When he was mostly dead, he fell from the boat into Mab's waiting arms.. Yeah, he heard in his mind Cassius's death curse, but he was only mostly dead, Mab was there so even if he was all dead, he didn't die alone.  If it means that all his friends and family die first, well, if Harry is the military leader of the BAT, that stuff happens...

One more thought, was Cassius even a wizard?  I think not, so there was no juice behind his curse other than to make Harry feel bad.

Ed0517:

--- Quote from: Mira on October 02, 2021, 08:29:12 PM ---  Again, is it a real curse?  We know what Malcolm told him... When he was mostly dead, he fell from the boat into Mab's waiting arms.. Yeah, he heard in his mind Cassius's death curse, but he was only mostly dead, Mab was there so even if he was all dead, he didn't die alone.  If it means that all his friends and family die first, well, if Harry is the military leader of the BAT, that stuff happens...

One more thought, was Cassius even a wizard?  I think not, so there was no juice behind his curse other than to make Harry feel bad.

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I think Cassius was a wizard, but a minor one. Harry is gaining in strength all the time, even if it is still there it may get shed in time. The same way Cowl was contemptuous of Harry's death curse, and Kumori told Harry he has shaken off worse. 

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