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Mistakes Harry has made that will come back

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groinkick:

--- Quote from: LostInTime on September 23, 2021, 12:56:58 AM ---TBF, Harry didn't sacrifice Susan. Susan sacrificed Susan to get revenge on Martin. Once Susan was gone, Harry used the blood of the new ramp to kill the Red Court.

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That's fair.  However Harry didn't really offer any options either.  In the heat of the moment, I completely agreed with what he did.  In hindsight however it appears that may have been the wrong decision.  I think a terrible blow to the Red Court (like Maggie sandbagging Lord Raith) may have been a better solution.  The power vacuum was not filled by allies, but enemies.

Mira:

--- Quote from: groinkick on September 23, 2021, 05:38:24 AM ---That's fair.  However Harry didn't really offer any options either.  In the heat of the moment, I completely agreed with what he did.  In hindsight however it appears that may have been the wrong decision.  I think a terrible blow to the Red Court (like Maggie sandbagging Lord Raith) may have been a better solution.  The power vacuum was not filled by allies, but enemies.

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  Yeah, well in that moment in time he had no time for any other solution unless he wanted to sacrifice their child, himself, most likely Thomas, and Eb.. So mistake?  Maybe, but no other alternatives..

But all of that is after the fact... His mistake was leaving that invitation to the party setting around where Susan could steal it.  His mistake was thinking she wouldn't steal it.  Keep Susan from crashing that party and none of that would have happened.. 

LostInTime:
Honest people assume other people are honest until they are given reason to distrust people in general or specific examples.

morriswalters:

--- Quote from: LostInTime on September 23, 2021, 12:56:58 AM ---TBF, Harry didn't sacrifice Susan. Susan sacrificed Susan to get revenge on Martin. Once Susan was gone, Harry used the blood of the new ramp to kill the Red Court.
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Susan might have volunteered had Harry asked her.  But he didn't ask.  He created a weapon and then used that weapon.

Mira:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on September 23, 2021, 01:47:07 PM ---Susan might have volunteered had Harry asked her.  But he didn't ask.  He created a weapon and then used that weapon.

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 He didn't create the weapon, the only person who can take responsibility for how she ended up, is Susan... Down to her original flirtation with Harry in Storm Front.  Yes, eventually she fell in love with him, but her original reasons for pursuing him was inside info for her job and fame to further her career.  Harry warned her and told her why he wasn't going to that party, but in spite of what she had seen of how dangerous the supernatural world was, she stole the invitation.. There are consequences, and she paid the price. 

Unprotected sex, both are the blame for that and must take responsibility.. Result of that little mistake was a child, put in danger by Susan's original mistake, and she paid the price, willingly, once she realized she had been betrayed and used by Martin, she killed him knowing it would turn her, her decision based on the new information she received.   Harry did ask, as she was turning he told her, that the Red King wanted to kill Maggie because she was the youngest, to kill him,Eb, and Thomas too, now she was the youngest, and she could kill all of them... She told him to do it, she could have refused and happily be a Red Court Vamp today, if she had wanted.  But she didn't want that..  No, Harry didn't create her, her own actions did that.

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