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Mistakes Harry has made that will come back
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on October 03, 2021, 08:58:20 PM ---Harry's a monster. Showing remorse doesn't mean anything. A man might show remorse after beating his wife to death. It makes him no less a monster. The day might come when Butter's or someone isn't there. And then what? And this isn't the first instance of Harry going into a killing rage.
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A true monster in my opinion is a psychopath and or sociopath, Harry is neither. A monster wouldn't have demanded that the people hurt and killed in the battle be compensated. People lose their tempers all of the time, that doesn't make them monsters. We tend to cut Rudolph a bit of slack for killing Murphy because he was paranoid, scared shitless, and totally careless. Yet, many aren't willing to cut Harry a bit of slack, react, yes, but with merely a flood of grief, not violent retaliation.. That makes him a monster some seem to think, but left out in that scenario is the kind of pressure Harry was under at that moment,people were dying left right and center and he couldn't do much about it, then Murphy was killed before his eyes, he snapped, everyone has their breaking point. Sanya and Butters know this, if they thought for one moment that he was a monster, they would have dispatched him, the Sword would have instead of a mere slap on the wrist in the form of a burn to bring him back to the job at hand.
morriswalters:
It has nothing to do with cutting anybody any slack. The sword hurt him not because he was a monster. It hurt him because the act was evil. Frankenstein was a monster but he was not evil in an classic sense.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on October 04, 2021, 01:17:00 AM ---It has nothing to do with cutting anybody any slack. The sword hurt him not because he was a monster. It hurt him because the act was evil. Frankenstein was a monster but he was not evil in an classic sense.
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No, if he were a monster, the sword would have cut off his arm.. It didn't. Earlier in Peace Talks Harry didn't feel anything from the blade during that practice session with Michael and Butters. If Harry were a monster it would have burned him then, it didn't. The Sword acted like a shock collar, it zapped him good, it brought him back to reality, he stopped, a monster wouldn't have. In the classic sense, angels are monsters, so what does that prove? Frankenstein's Monster was not evil in the classic sense either, he was considered "unnatural."
BrainFireBob:
I've said it before and I will no doubt say it again: I believe the shock of Murphy's sudden depth slipped Harry's control over the Winter Knight mantle, demonstrated in text by the parallel with when he gave it its head in Cold Days, and the burn from the Faithsabre was to allow him to reassert his free will/mastery over the mantle. The burn wouldn't stop him from killing Rudolph, but it would shift it to him killing Rudolph, instead of the meat suit being piloted by the id-machine Winter Mantle.
Mira:
--- Quote from: BrainFireBob on October 04, 2021, 07:30:33 PM ---I've said it before and I will no doubt say it again: I believe the shock of Murphy's sudden depth slipped Harry's control over the Winter Knight mantle, demonstrated in text by the parallel with when he gave it its head in Cold Days, and the burn from the Faithsabre was to allow him to reassert his free will/mastery over the mantle. The burn wouldn't stop him from killing Rudolph, but it would shift it to him killing Rudolph, instead of the meat suit being piloted by the id-machine Winter Mantle.
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Pretty much, the pressure and shocks that Harry had been under and received the the days leading up to witnessing Murphy's death at the hands of Rudolph sent Harry over the edge. For a few minutes he was sent into a mindless rage, all he wanted to do was react and kill the one who killed his love. The Sword burn was like getting ice water thrown into his face, the shock of it brought him back to himself and reset his brain.. Everyone loses it sometimes, Eb lost it when he was fighting Harry with almost tragic results, that reset Eb's brain and he reacted with the same shame as Harry, both know they should never lose control, but enough emotion, enough pressure, it happens. Both Eb and Harry are basically good people, they are not monsters
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