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Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 27, 2021, 03:22:45 PM ---Yet, those times you mention, compared to Cowl, Harry is very young and inexperienced without
the aid of a mantle of any kind, further though the shadow of Lasciel was in his head for part of the time, she didn't enhance his power or magic. Still he held his own, I disagree that Cowl was simply toying with him in their first meeting, Harry has grown since they last met in knowlege, mantel, and experience.
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Cowl was definitely going easy on Harry in their first meeting.
--- Quote from: Dead Beat Ch.8 ---"Just as well," Cowl murmured. "I have wanted to see for myself what has the Wardens so nervous about you."
The cold wind rose again, and the hairs on the back of my neck rose up stiffly. A flash of sensation flickered over me as Cowl drew in power. A lot of power.
...
I've traded practice blows with my old master Justin DuMorne, himself at one time a Warden. I fought him in earnest, too, and won. I've tested my strength in practice duels against the mentor who succeeded him, Ebenezar McCoy. My faerie godmother, the Leanansidhe, has a seriously nasty right hook, metaphysically speaking, and I've even gone up against the least of the Queens of Faerie. Throw in a couple of demons, various magical constructs, a thirteen-story fall in a runaway elevator, half a dozen spellslingers of one amount of nasty or another, and I've seen more sheer mystic violence than most wizards in the business. I've beaten them all, or at least survived them, and I've got the scars to show for it.
Cowl hit me harder than any of them.
...
Cowl walked slowly toward me down the sidewalk, all cloak and hood and shadows. "Disappointing," he said. "I hoped you were ready for the heavyweight division."
...
Cowl kept walking toward me. Hell's bells, it didn't even look like he was trying all that hard.
I got a cold feeling in my chest.
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Harry has grown since DB, but not enough to make a match of Cowl yet.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 26, 2021, 09:31:05 PM ---But they handled them, Harry, Carlos, Listens to Wind, and River Shoulders lived to fight another day, as Listen says, that's a win.. Mavra could have done this or that, but she didn't succeed.
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They didn't handle them. Toot and the little folk showed up, and started attacking with garlic. If not for them, Harry and the others would have been killed.
Mira:
--- Quote from: groinkick on September 28, 2021, 03:17:45 AM ---They didn't handle them. Toot and the little folk showed up, and started attacking with garlic. If not for them, Harry and the others would have been killed.
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But that is part of it, isn't it? Winning is a team effort, Harry has that kind of loyalty, Mavra never will.
Con:
I'd put Cowl Senior Council level as well.
Mavra was the drummer so weakest of Drakuls entourage.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Con on September 28, 2021, 11:47:28 AM ---I'd put Cowl Senior Council level as well.
Mavra was the drummer so weakest of Drakuls entourage.
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But in the end it isn't about one on one.. It is about leadership, it is about those who will follow that lead. That's what really scares the Senior Council, yeah, anyone one of them one on one is stronger than Harry and most likely could take him, but it isn't about that. When the flying squid thingies were raising havoc when the battle begun, there were Senior Council members present, for all their personal power and knowledge they couldn't do squat in an effective manner to stop them. Enter Harry, a word to his loyal Za'Gard, and they took them.. Same against Mavra and Drakul, yeah, one on one, they were screwed, three Wardens, killed or dispatched to another dimension.. But while it was bad, they didn't win, not because one of the wizards or the sash-quash was badder than the rest, but because of Harry's loyal little army, following orders to go and get the garlic..
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