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Will Harry change his approach to magic now?

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Snark Knight:
I found it interesting that his request to Molly for the illusory doppelganger focus was that he didn't have the time to make it himself, not that it was outright beyond him. Seems like he's been leveling up in illusion without an opportunity to show that on page, if he wasn't overstating.


--- Quote from: groinkick on September 16, 2021, 07:42:04 PM ---I'm hoping that maybe we see Harry working some earth magic.  He's done some pretty cool stuff with it in the past.  Also he mentioned how Morgan could horribly hurt you with it, as to not violate the laws of magic.  So in a duel with Carlos I could see the ground sucking in, and twisting, and snapping his already injured leg. 

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Carlos' shield technique is energy-efficient, but he hasn't had a harsh lesson like Harry's experience with the flamethrower in what it won't block. Water / entropy shielding is great for projectiles, probably great for fire, but what's it going to do against force, electricity or cold? Granted force or cold are probably pretty predictable options Harry should stay away from if he needs to disable Carlos without killing him

The spell behind the taser chain he used on Tessa in SmF would be a good combination of nonlethal, less crippling than earth, shield-penetrating and exotic enough to be a surprise. Probably a good idea to train up on doing that without a focus.

forumghost:

--- Quote from: Snark Knight on September 16, 2021, 09:02:24 PM ---I found it interesting that his request to Molly for the illusory doppelganger focus was that he didn't have the time to make it himself, not that it was outright beyond him. Seems like he's been leveling up in illusion without an opportunity to show that on page, if he wasn't overstating.

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I think it's more like the parts of Magic where Harry is actually talented is in crafting stuff, rathen then his skill at illusions growing- Little Chicago was impressive by Bob's standards after all, and his potions have always been stupid OP, which is why Jim wrote them out of the series.

The problem is he stopped developing that natural affinity because 'hur-dur reul Wizzard dun use silly toyzzz' So Harry is basically Molly if she decided to focus on Evocation instead of illusions.

Because like I said, he's an idiot.

morriswalters:
If you like gadgets Jim is getting you ready for LC2. Without all the tedious bits.
--- Quote ---And it was moving. Even as I watched, several tiny blue blocks marked with an X glided slowly down streets marked on the map. They stood out against the old-timey artistry as sharply as if they’d been some kind of video game. “A tactical map,” I noted. “Of my town.” Vadderung glanced up at me with his one eye and then back down. “What of it?” “Takes a lot of effort to make a construct like this,” I said. “And a lot of being in the place you’re making the map of.” “I’ve had more time than most to be more places than most,” he said.

Butcher, Jim. Battle Ground (Dresden Files) (pp. 54-55). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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Mira:

--- Quote ---I think it's more like the parts of Magic where Harry is actually talented is in crafting stuff, rathen then his skill at illusions growing- Little Chicago was impressive by Bob's standards after all, and his potions have always been stupid OP, which is why Jim wrote them out of the series.
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Since Harry has his lab back now, I assume potions are also back.  They are not stupid, chemistry is one of the primary areas of study of wizards historically, let's not forget it was a potion that allowed Harry and company to sneak in and spring Thomas.

Crafting stuff is another talent that shouldn't be pooh, poohed..  Wizards also need their "gadgets," you might consider a staff a gadget that all wizards seem to carry... Rashid gave up his eye for a very important gadget... Not sure about the eye, but someone had to craft the staffs that they carry, how well it is done is very important.


--- Quote ---The problem is he stopped developing that natural affinity because 'hur-dur reul Wizzard dun use silly toyzzz' So Harry is basically Molly if she decided to focus on Evocation instead of illusions.

Because like I said, he's an idiot.
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Really, well, Harry did use a very serious toy in Battle Ground, the Spear, the thing is he knew enough to keep it under wraps until he needed to use it, not the actions of an idiot...  He matched his will against a Titan, no toys there, just his will.  If Harry was an idiot, he never would have gained access to those very important and powerful toys he found in the vault of Hades back in Skin Game.

TheCuriousFan:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 17, 2021, 02:18:54 PM ---Since Harry has his lab back now, I assume potions are also back.  They are not stupid, chemistry is one of the primary areas of study of wizards historically, let's not forget it was a potion that allowed Harry and company to sneak in and spring Thomas.

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Stupid OP is short for stupidly overpowered, as in something so useful that there's no sane reason you're not using it constantly.

--- Quote ---Really, well, Harry did use a very serious toy in Battle Ground, the Spear, the thing is he knew enough to keep it under wraps until he needed to use it, not the actions of an idiot...  He matched his will against a Titan, no toys there, just his will.  If Harry was an idiot, he never would have gained access to those very important and powerful toys he found in the vault of Hades back in Skin Game.
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You're swimming against the current there, even Jim gets in on calling Harry an idiot. Being smart in some ways does nothing to stop him being an idiot in others.

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