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Arjan:

--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on September 13, 2021, 12:20:38 PM ---3 heh, makes sense why Gruff gave Murphy so much personal clout.
4 Chandler, or MM Chandler 🤔👀

8*inhales* LIAR! An so ya know if you read this Jim, as a put upon theorist just trying to find acceptance I do understand your desire to conceal the twists of your plot. But I absolutely hate that you did that. I don't forgive that one. I don't believe you for one second and would absolutely pull up to the urinal next to you in violation of the bathroom codex to force a private conversation on the matter.
I AM the Etruscan theory. 😠😫👿 I've been cheated on and felt less betrayed..

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He does not know so if you know better you should of course inform him  ;D  ;D

Mira:

--- Quote ---4. Chandlers in Mirror Mirror.

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Yes!  Yet another of my predictions comes true unless Jim changes his mind.  The first I was right on was years before it happened I predicted based on Dead Beat that Butters would eventually be a Holy Knight. 

So the question then becomes, does Harry rescue Chandler and bring him back?  Does Chandler remain where he is to continue the good fight?  Does Chandler become a major ally of Harry if he does successfully rescue him?  Or does Chandler turn out to be infected or some such thing and Harry really messes up by bringing him back to his own time/dimension?  I predict that unless Chandler turns out to be a bad guy or a turned vamp, he will be taking over Murphy, Thomas, and Michael's role as a major partner of Harry, simply because I cannot see the White Council accepting him back now.

The_Sibelis:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 13, 2021, 02:34:23 PM ---Yes!  Yet another of my predictions comes true unless Jim changes his mind.  The first I was right on was years before it happened I predicted based on Dead Beat that Butters would eventually be a Holy Knight. 

So the question then becomes, does Harry rescue Chandler and bring him back?  Does Chandler remain where he is to continue the good fight?  Does Chandler become a major ally of Harry if he does successfully rescue him?  Or does Chandler turn out to be infected or some such thing and Harry really messes up by bringing him back to his own time/dimension?  I predict that unless Chandler turns out to be a bad guy or a turned vamp, he will be taking over Murphy, Thomas, and Michael's role as a major partner of Harry, simply because I cannot see the White Council accepting him back now.

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I'd like that. He needs a peer in wizardry and Elaine is far to busy doing her own thing(and possibly being a secret Black hat) and I've always liked Chandler too. Though, I'm not gonna give up hope he goes back and gets stuffed in DR waiting to come out via the English gentleman. His mode of speech seems so appropriate for the character.
I think Chandler will be pretty instrumental if he and Harry team up, his key power being foresight and Harry having at least SOME ability in it.. imagine if he could tutor Harry in how to channel it into something usable? Spells to look forward, opening to possibilities in time, maybe even an ultra instinct like ability. Harry's archetype runs along the same vien as many characters who are known for their own foresight so he should have some manifestation himself?

Second Aristh:

--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on September 13, 2021, 12:20:38 PM ---3 heh, makes sense why Gruff gave Murphy so much personal clout.
4 Chandler, or MM Chandler 🤔👀

8*inhales* LIAR! An so ya know if you read this Jim, as a put upon theorist just trying to find acceptance I do understand your desire to conceal the twists of your plot. But I absolutely hate that you did that. I don't forgive that one. I don't believe you for one second and would absolutely pull up to the urinal next to you in violation of the bathroom codex to force a private conversation on the matter.
I AM the Etruscan theory. 😠😫👿 I've been cheated on and felt less betrayed..

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For the exact WoJ...

--- Quote from: DragonCon 2021 Q&A --- Who created the White Court of vampires and/or have we met them yet?
Who created them?  Who asked that?  Where are you?  Hey man...
They've just been around for a long long time.  I actually myself haven't gotten into the origins of that too much.  Maybe I should do that...  ;D Yeah, would that be okay, guys?  Okay.

Yeah, Harry's gonna be hanging out with Lara a lot.  So, I suppose they've got to talk about something.  He's got to date her once a month.  It's a whole thing.  The lawyers have got to look at the contracts for the date, and, you know, make sure things are within their prescribed limits and so on.  It's a whole deal. 

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For that, I think the "who created" vs "how they were created" are two different questions that leaves a bit of wiggle room for later, especially tying in the "too much".  Having an analogue for the White Court as Drakul for the Black Court is different than not knowing at all where the White Court came from.

Mira:


 Then there is the issue of true love, unless the protection ends with Murphy's death, Lara cannot touch Harry.

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