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DR in perspective? theory
The_Sibelis:
So thinking about DR and how Merlin basically either went back to a single point from five possible timelines to create DR from a single point, or created it across five timelines at a single point in time(same difference?). The main significance to me has always been in relation to the pentacles five points and it being some sort of spell form. An I wonder if it's not even simpler in it's design then it appears. What if it's designed to trap spacetime, or the void between it on a thaumaturgical scale? So all of outside is snared at once in stasis? Idk, I actually had the idea rereading the devil's trap scene in the aquarium and thinking about it's similarities to DRs defenses. What if the reason outsiders come in imitating some form of reality is because they have to do a metaphor for what Harry's friends did on DR and disguise themselves as part of the Island/reality?
Second Aristh:
Jim has mentioned before that he drew inspiration of pentagrams in multiple dimensions from one of these. At least, something along those lines. The D&D nerd is coming out in him.
morriswalters:
The figure is called a regular dodecagon. Draw a line from the center perpendicular to each face and you end up with 12 lines. Each face represents a pentagon with five sides of the same length. However Jim may have a counting problem. The figure has 12 radii and Jim says the prison has 13 aisles.
If you are interested in this kind of thing, what Merlin did can be represented by a helical spiral(a slinky). Walk down the spiral an each time you do one full revolution you are at the same place when looked at from above, but are one coil down. And if you stop after 12 revolutions and if your starting point was n(1) then you are at n(12)+1. Twelve revolutions plus 1 for n=1 to 12. Thirteen.
If you draw a pentagon on this structure the five vertexes will end up at different points vertically. So here's time travel. Travel down the spiral and each time you come to some n you have traveled back an n interval of time. If want to make things hard for the traveler make a rule that says you can only go in one direction on the spiral.
Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on September 01, 2021, 05:48:25 PM ---The figure is called a regular dodecagon. Draw a line from the center perpendicular to each face and you end up with 12 lines. Each face represents a pentagon with five sides of the same length. However Jim may have a counting problem. The figure has 12 radii and Jim says the prison has 13 aisles.
If you are interested in this kind of thing, what Merlin did can be represented by a helical spiral(a slinky). Walk down the spiral an each time you do one full revolution you are at the same place when looked at from above, but are one coil down. And if you stop after 12 revolutions and if your starting point was n(1) then you are at n(12)+1. Twelve revolutions plus 1 for n=1 to 12. Thirteen.
If you draw a pentagon on this structure the five vertexes will end up at different points vertically. So here's time travel. Travel down the spiral and each time you come to some n you have traveled back an n interval of time. If want to make things hard for the traveler make a rule that says you can only go in one direction on the spiral.
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Dodecahedron; dodecagons are flat with twelve sides. :)
The prison was created in five times simultaneously, not twelve times. Also, there's a bit of a discrepancy with 12 vs 13 aisles. In CD, Harry says there are eleven others besides the one that Alfred had just opened. Then in SG, Harry is parkouring in aisle 7 of 13. My guess is that he's counting the stairs to get out of the prison as number 13. It fits more nicely with the geometry that way.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Second Aristh on September 02, 2021, 01:51:21 AM ---
--- Quote from: morriswalters on September 01, 2021, 05:48:25 PM ---If you are interested in this kind of thing, what Merlin did can be represented by a helical spiral(a slinky).
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The prison was created in five times simultaneously, not twelve times.
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Ages ago I made an MS Paint drawing for this, but that was back when Photobucket was free and helpful.
The design was like a slinky, but instead of being five points directly above each other, they were spaced so that from above (or below) the slinky, the points were equidistant and formed a pentacle when connected.
Also the prison does have other ties to the number twelve. There were 1,728 steps, or twelve sections of twelve stairways of twelve steps.
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