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A Way to Demonreach

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Kindler:

--- Quote from: LostInTime on September 23, 2021, 06:37:08 PM ---I think Margaret's ruby is about to get used.

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I really, really hope so. It feels like it's been tragically underutilized in the story.
For example... it might've been effing awesome for Harry to have used the directions from Margaret's travels to hop around Chicago during Battle Ground, or to use it to smuggle Thomas out, or to hightail it to Edinburgh to pick up the Merlin and anyone else who could come, or... something.
I know, I know, Harry was a little busy at the time and the guy can't do everything. But c'mon. He's got the power to go almost anywhere he wants to. He's had it for, what, two full years? Maybe longer.
It also functions like a diary. I'm sure Margaret left Harry more than magic MapQuest and a message for Harry (somehow) inside Thomas's noggin. There's got to be more than that for Harry to hear.

groinkick:
Harry is a member of Winter.  A Way to the Island may take him through territory that he's not welcome.

Mira:

--- Quote from: groinkick on September 23, 2021, 07:40:47 PM ---Harry is a member of Winter.  A Way to the Island may take him through territory that he's not welcome.

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That is very possible, yet isn't Rashid also more or less a member of Winter?  He is a general of Winter's troops at the Gates, and if I remember correctly aren't his robes and stole Winter's colors? Yet he managed to get to Demonreach, but without stepping on the island itself.

BrainFireBob:
Depends on how the Ways work, right?

If opening a Way between the Nevernever and reality is a matter of similarity, then he can maybe open one from the castle now- a fortress of solitude controlled by the Warden to another.

Lea's bond with Harry let her make the two places similar, I think- she nurtures Harry, from her POV, and she nurtures her garden, so the places can be made to overlap. If I'm right on this model, than Thomas taking Michael out of the Nevernever via a strip club is because women taking their clothes off is similar to wherever Thomas is.

Second Aristh:

--- Quote from: BrainFireBob on September 23, 2021, 11:15:26 PM ---Depends on how the Ways work, right?

If opening a Way between the Nevernever and reality is a matter of similarity, then he can maybe open one from the castle now- a fortress of solitude controlled by the Warden to another.

Lea's bond with Harry let her make the two places similar, I think- she nurtures Harry, from her POV, and she nurtures her garden, so the places can be made to overlap. If I'm right on this model, than Thomas taking Michael out of the Nevernever via a strip club is because women taking their clothes off is similar to wherever Thomas is.

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Yeah, I think that's basically the case, although I don't think it's as individualized as that.  More of a general vibe of the place than one being's perspective.  Harry's home was a place where he stayed and lived and grew, kinda garden like already.  If Lea hopped over to the NN side of Harry's apartment then grew a garden like that, I don't think it would necessarily stay the NN side of Harry's apartment if the apartment didn't already have those vibes.

As an easier example, say the NN side of the Full Moon garage in FM is a suitably nasty place.  If you forced your will on that NN location to make it cozy and friendly, opening a portal to the NN at the garage wouldn't still go to your cozy place.  The correspondance between the NN and our world shift as the atmosphere of a place changes.

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