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Who do you think the Vampires took from Eb?
Griffyn612:
My take is that it's the White Court vampires he specifically loathes.
* He didn't seem particularly vehement when helping Harry go against Mavra.
* He could tolerate Arianna standing in the halls of Edinburgh without righteous outrage.
* He tried to force choke Lara to death on-sight in TC.
* He went insane in PT.
I'm sure he doesn't like any vampire, and would like to see them all dead. But it's the Wamps he seems to have specific loathing for.
And since they can't turn anyone, I'd guess that they either ate and killed someone he loved, or the seduced someone he loved.
I could easily see where he had a wife, mother to Margaret, who left him for a Wamp after she became a thrall. Then he watches as his daughter allies herself with one, and (unconsciously) knows she's sleeping with him. Then he watches his grandson befriend one and (apparently) start sleeping with another.
That would explain it to me.
Mira:
[quoteHe tried to force choke Lara to death on-sight in TC.][/quote]
Yet at some point in years past he had dinner with her father and his daughter.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on August 29, 2021, 03:42:14 PM ---My take is that it's the White Court vampires he specifically loathes.
* He didn't seem particularly vehement when helping Harry go against Mavra.
* He could tolerate Arianna standing in the halls of Edinburgh without righteous outrage.
* He tried to force choke Lara to death on-sight in TC.
* He went insane in PT.
I'm sure he doesn't like any vampire, and would like to see them all dead. But it's the Wamps he seems to have specific loathing for.
And since they can't turn anyone, I'd guess that they either ate and killed someone he loved, or the seduced someone he loved.
I could easily see where he had a wife, mother to Margaret, who left him for a Wamp after she became a thrall. Then he watches as his daughter allies herself with one, and (unconsciously) knows she's sleeping with him. Then he watches his grandson befriend one and (apparently) start sleeping with another.
That would explain it to me.
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I think his venom for the Whites is because of Maggie Sr. I believe she was friends with Lara, and that's how she got with Lord Raith. My opinion is that unlike Lord Raith, he was able to slay those responsible for the loss of another family member so he has been able to move past it more while he hasn't been able to with the White Court. Raith still lives, and Eb hasn't been able to do anything about it. Considering Eb killed a Dragon in 1908, that says a lot.
EBRIEN:
Mavra.
Not sure why. Just a feeling.
Ed0517:
I think there is probably enough intel that the Senior Council might know Thomas is Eb's grandson. He is the ONLY son of the White King, that makes him significant. They'd try to look into him, why is he allowed to live. And his mom likely turns up. Eb may know, but not know Harry and Thomas know. Eb may even have been unaware, but when Thomas and Harry started to hang out, he looks Thomas up...
Here's a possibility - maybe Maggie is not the LAST person he lost to the Whamps. And she involved herself with them. Hardly totally innocent. Maybe they did take his wife.... and it was not Harry's grandmother. We spoke of his wife, and hear about Harry's grandmother... She died over 200 years ago. Could he have had a SECOND (or more?) wife in that time frame? Maybe even when Maggie left Raith, they came looking for her... went to his farm... and killed an innocent? And that the fresher wound?
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