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Mira:


Just reread the battle between Harry, Carlos, the Wardens, Rivershoulders and Listen to Winds, with the Major General coming to the rescue with garlic from PizzaSpress, verses Mavra and Drakul and Company.  In that battle Carlos got beat up pretty bad, he was in serious trouble, as was Harry until Toot came to the rescue with the garlic.  After the battle Carlos gave Harry a look and a hardness was described in that look.  In other words Carlos was blaming Harry for what happened to his friends, or at least that is the implication I got from it.  After the battle Carlos wants to go after the vamps and Harry tells him no, they got a bigger battle to fight that they'd get revenge after.  But from that exchange I get the impression that Carlos has been brain washed by someone, first hints was the tracking device, and his somehow thinking the vamps was all Harry's fault.  In a way I suppose, Harry did give Mavra the book.  Anyway, from what went down during that battle Carlos didn't appear stronger than Harry or as strong.

groinkick:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 13, 2021, 09:52:27 PM ---
Just reread the battle between Harry, Carlos, the Wardens, Rivershoulders and Listen to Winds, with the Major General coming to the rescue with garlic from PizzaSpress, verses Mavra and Drakul and Company.  In that battle Carlos got beat up pretty bad, he was in serious trouble, as was Harry until Toot came to the rescue with the garlic.  After the battle Carlos gave Harry a look and a hardness was described in that look.  In other words Carlos was blaming Harry for what happened to his friends, or at least that is the implication I got from it.  After the battle Carlos wants to go after the vamps and Harry tells him no, they got a bigger battle to fight that they'd get revenge after.  But from that exchange I get the impression that Carlos has been brain washed by someone, first hints was the tracking device, and his somehow thinking the vamps was all Harry's fault.  In a way I suppose, Harry did give Mavra the book.  Anyway, from what went down during that battle Carlos didn't appear stronger than Harry or as strong.

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Jim didn't say he was as strong.  He actually said if they fought it would be the fencer vs the Olympic lifter.  Remember that David beat Goliath with a little stone because he used it in a very precise, and lethal way.  That's basically how Jim is saying Carlos would win.  That being the case I think we all know that Carlos won't kill Harry, even if he tries. 

Mira:

--- Quote ---Jim didn't say he was as strong.  He actually said if they fought it would be the fencer vs the Olympic lifter.  Remember that David beat Goliath with a little stone because he used it in a very precise, and lethal way.  That's basically how Jim is saying Carlos would win.  That being the case I think we all know that Carlos won't kill Harry, even if he tries.

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It isn't about size, one of the morals about the David verses Goliath was even though Goliath was this huge strong mountain of a man, he wasn't the brightest penny in the bag.. David was smaller, but he was brave and smart enough to know that it he could, the best bet was to take Goliath down from a distance.. He also was smart enough to realize he had the right weapon for the job, a sling and a stone.. Oh and another weakness in Goliath, he was way over confident.  In the case of Harry verses Carlos, he might be a heavy weight, but Harry's mind is as agile as a fencer, that is how he has beaten opponents above his weight class for years.  Actually it might be Carlos who has the more calcified brain in a fight. 

groinkick:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 15, 2021, 05:06:14 AM ---It isn't about size, one of the morals about the David verses Goliath was even though Goliath was this huge strong mountain of a man, he wasn't the brightest penny in the bag.. David was smaller, but he was brave and smart enough to know that it he could, the best bet was to take Goliath down from a distance.. He also was smart enough to realize he had the right weapon for the job, a sling and a stone.. Oh and another weakness in Goliath, he was way over confident.  In the case of Harry verses Carlos, he might be a heavy weight, but Harry's mind is as agile as a fencer, that is how he has beaten opponents above his weight class for years.  Actually it might be Carlos who has the more calcified brain in a fight.

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I'm just repeating what Jim said. 

Mira:

--- Quote from: groinkick on September 17, 2021, 03:38:12 AM ---I'm just repeating what Jim said.

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I know, but what I am saying there is more than one way of looking at what Jim said.  Which is probably why Jim said it.  One can look at it in terms of mental agility and strength verses physical agility and strength.  All I am saying given what Jim said, it is possible that the weight lifter has a very agile mind, and the fencer not at all which would make a huge difference in a battle..

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