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Demonreach, Ley lines, and Harry's connection
Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 01, 2021, 03:38:34 AM --- Alfred is more than a mere Genius Loci, he is an Intellectus..
Turn Coat page 278 Harry tells Morgan about his contact with Alfred and here is Morgan's response.
There is a hell of a lot more to it as Morgan goes on to explain to Molly, but it's getting late and I don't feel like copying another page and a half.
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Alfred has intellectus about the island, yes. The prison being built allowed him to ascend to a higher place than your typical genius loci.
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 30, 2021, 01:25:34 PM ---Perhaps, but not advisable because of the danger of the power itself. Remember in Peace Talks when Harry asked Alfred about his range for collecting Ethniu, he said it was the edge of the lake. Now possibly if he drew on the ley line power, it would have been much easier, fewer would have died etc., but that didn't happen. It wasn't even explored by Harry or suggested by Alfred, even though it was vital that Ethniu be locked up and as quickly as possible. So that says it either the power cannot be drawn upon by the Warden from anywhere or the consequences of doing that are too heavy.
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Harry tapping the power might not have had much effect. Perhaps Alfred can and does use the power, and that was the limiting factor - he barely reaches the shore, at least at that power. You may lose strength further from your power sources, Lea tells Mouse he is far from his source of power, but Mouse "Lives with a wizard. I cheat"
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 30, 2021, 07:18:03 PM ---You haven't crossed the biggest hurdle for Merlin to put them in there. What was someone from medieval England doing building demon prisons in Chicago to put Gods and Monsters in? Even the Norse didn't get that far inland. And it was a Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court not Harry.
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Ericsson did not know about Ways. Merlin likely did. And once wizards knew of Ways.. only reasonable some of them would have explored the Ways. Human nature. Merlin wanted somewhere remote. He may have looked for a Genius Loci - I like Arith's idea the prison lifted him above most Loci and gave him intellectus. Maybe like Harry seems to lift Toot. Anyway, there is a Way to the island - when Harry invited the Senior Council, people were gating in on the far side. Plus the Gatekeeper knew one. If Merlin decided he needed a jail, and could time travel, why not go back and build it in the past, so it can be ready in his own day? If he needed one in 1200, why not go back to 500 and build it, so it is waiting. So a relatively sparsely populated area. An island in the middle of one of the largest lakes in the world. A genius Loci to develop into a jailer. Just fits.
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Ed0517 on September 05, 2021, 08:34:46 AM ---If Merlin Harry decided he needed a jail, and could time travel, why not go back and build it in the past, so it can be ready in his own day? If he needed one in 1200 2020, why not go back to 500Whenever and build it, so it is waiting. So a relatively sparsely populated area. An island in the middle of one of the largest lakes in the world. A genius Loci to develop into a jailer. Just fits.
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This is the curse of time travel for authors and why they use it. If you want an effect it is easy to create a cause. I've taken the liberty of editing your prose.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on September 05, 2021, 08:37:11 PM ---This is the curse of time travel for authors and why they use it. If you want an effect it is easy to create a cause. I've taken the liberty of editing your prose.
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And why so many time travel stories fall flat, they are predictable.
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