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Apocalypse is a frame of mind
morriswalters:
This can't be a coincidence, can it?
--- Quote from: Death Masks ---Nicodemus studied me for a moment before smiling. "Apocalypse is a frame of mind," he said then. "A belief. A surrender to inevitability. It is despair for the future. It is the death of hope."
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--- Quote from: Battle Ground ---“Apocalypse isn’t an event,” Nemesis murmured. “It is a frame of mind.” I probably would have staggered anyway, but the phrase hit hard. “This was less a plan than . . . an act of faith, I suppose you would say,” the Outsider continued through Justine’s lips. “Faith?” I asked. “In what is coming,” the Walker said. “The unraveling of all things into darkness and silence.” “Empty Night,” I breathed.
Butcher, Jim. Battle Ground (Dresden Files) (p. 361). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 23, 2021, 05:31:50 PM ---This can't be a coincidence, can it?
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Nope, we tend to think of apocalypse as a huge bomb or disaster of some kind. What Nic and HWWB are saying it is more of a slow rotting from with in. Institutions are broken down little by little, loss of faith in those institutions, collapse from with in, the inability to resist outside attacks.
Griffyn612:
It might be a sign of something deeper going on, or it might be that Butcher forgot that he'd already used that line. He's said before that he forgets a lot from the series because of all the rewrites.
So maybe it's that. Or maybe Nico is infected. Or maybe he's heard the recruitment speech from nemesis himself. Or maybe the Fallen are just as evil as the Outsiders, and operate in a similar fashion.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on August 23, 2021, 09:26:32 PM ---It might be a sign of something deeper going on, or it might be that Butcher forgot that he'd already used that line. He's said before that he forgets a lot from the series because of all the rewrites.
So maybe it's that. Or maybe Nico is infected. Or maybe he's heard the recruitment speech from nemesis himself. Or maybe the Fallen are just as evil as the Outsiders, and operate in a similar fashion.
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I wouldn't be shocked if the Fallen and Nemesis have a common strategy, even if their goals might not be quite the same..
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on August 23, 2021, 09:26:32 PM ---It might be a sign of something deeper going on, or it might be that Butcher forgot that he'd already used that line. He's said before that he forgets a lot from the series because of all the rewrites.
So maybe it's that. Or maybe Nico is infected. Or maybe he's heard the recruitment speech from nemesis himself. Or maybe the Fallen are just as evil as the Outsiders, and operate in a similar fashion.
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I'm taking the fact the phrase 'staggered him' as being significant. As in, he was staggered by his memory of Nic saying that. If Jim did this by accident then I'm going to start carrying a cast iron umbrella to protect me from flying pigs. One would seem to be as likely as the other.
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