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Could Dresden have been wrong about Thorned?
morriswalters:
I actually agree. Assuming that he will go back then he has already done it for any event that has already made it into the text. You've identified one and I believe there are others. But having Harry fix an event in which he might die is paradoxical. If he dies how does he exist to go back and change the event and how does he know it has to be him?
The_Sibelis:
They get around free will by, well, just straight up not violating it directly. Twinning the universes is a different sort of paradox (or did Odin say apocalypse 🤔 )
Take the events of DB. Harry was supposed to die in that Alley. He didn't specifically because of Kumori getting Marcones attention reviving the thug on Wacker St. Which I know, should be paradoxical in itself. But why wasn't it? Because the thug was never supposed to die. We've already seen another prime example of someone messing with perceptions to get two groups to shoot each other, when the Rag Lady was operating. So, she does something to cause a shoot out(which works really good as a future Alt version of Molly btw) and then something spectacular to draw attention to it's oddity. This cascade's into Marcone making the choice to go meet Dresden and save him in the Alley. The rules have already been laid out, you just have to look for things that fit.
The funny thing to me, is Kumori does that minutes before they show up together at Bocks. I think if Harry had died in the alley, there wouldn't be a body left to revive. So cowl didn't exist when fate was on that path, only Kumori. Timeline flux with each intervention changing who went back from where and what they changed,
Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 30, 2021, 12:08:16 PM ---I actually agree. Assuming that he will go back then he has already done it for any event that has already made it into the text. You've identified one and I believe there are others. But having Harry fix an event in which he might die is paradoxical. If he dies how does he exist to go back and change the event and how does he know it has to be him?
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Yeah, I think Harry to go back through time to make sure what has already happened happens (Prisoner of Azkaban style). Chasing someone through time to prevent them from screwing with the timeline is one convenient way to do that, but regardless I expect the time travel book to be the one where the important behind the scenes information of the big bads' actions can be conveyed to the reader. Jim can get Harry's eyes on events that he had no way of knowing or understanding during the regular case files. For example, we get to see how Little Chicago got fixed, we get to see what was going on with Arctis Tor, how did Aurora get infected, who hired Shagnasty, etc.
It's also a good chance for fan service by giving dead characters good cameos. Susan, Morgan, or Aurora perhaps.
Say Harry does it nearly perfectly, one small error in judgement could mean the kickoff to the BAT.
morriswalters:
Maybe, but I don't see a reason to do much around PG other than LC. As of Cold Days most of the characters are dead.
Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 30, 2021, 06:00:29 PM ---Maybe, but I don't see a reason to do much around PG other than LC. As of Cold Days most of the characters are dead.
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It also gives Harry a chance to use LC one last time before it blows up. It got a lot of page time for something that only got used once or twice.
Regardless, it would be nice to know if the Denarian throwing hellfire in Arctis Tor was working alone as well as the purpose of the assault. If it was to rescue Nem!Lea, why did they kill all the trolls but not finish the job in the garden (where Mab would have been able to skewer them thoroughly)? If Mab did step in to stop them, where are all their bodies? If it was a stealth mission, throwing hellfire isn't that stealthy. Overall, it's confusing even when you make the assumption that Maeve was bumping Mab's elbow with ordering fetches around (thereby revealing her own infection).
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