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So When Maeve Died, What Happened to.....
Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: groinkick on August 18, 2021, 03:41:44 AM ---I think the Mantle is unalterable. Meaning that Nemesis couldn't latch on to it. So It's connection was lost when Maeve died.
I think that Mab knows that there is too much humanity left in Molly. She needs Molly to give herself to the Mantle, completely. A Winter Lady that's conflicted is tolerable, a Winter Queen is not. The Queen must be laser focused on the mission at hand. The mission to protect the Out Gates at any cost.
Remember that Molly loves Harry. Mab does not. She see's Harry as a weapon, and my guess is a disposable weapon that isn't supposed to survive past the Stars and Stones. Molly might not have what it takes to sacrifice Harry the same way Mab will do it without hesitation.
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Mantles are alterable, likely not by Nemesis, but snipping off pieces of power and trading them along and melding them with other mantles happens (e.g. doing that is probably the main purpose of the Stone Table in Tir Na Nog). Taking on the santa mantle let Odin go from his original perception to the one we think of today, but it's a slow process.
I agree that Mab thinks Molly has too much soul to be a proper Winter Queen. She's too emotional to take up Mab's mantle in her eyes.
Mira:
--- Quote ---I think that Mab knows that there is too much humanity left in Molly. She needs Molly to give herself to the Mantle, completely. A Winter Lady that's conflicted is tolerable, a Winter Queen is not. The Queen must be laser focused on the mission at hand. The mission to protect the Out Gates at any cost.
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Ultimately Mab has to apply that standard to herself, and she failed but got lucky. What's left of the human mother in her ignored the fact that even before she was infected, Maeve sucked as the Winter Lady. The human mother left in her allowed her to favor Sarissa over Maeve which created resentment. The human mother left in her failed to see that Maeve was infected until it was too late. She got lucky, in the end Maeve/Nemesis failed to pull it off.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Second Aristh on August 18, 2021, 03:49:08 AM ---Mantles are alterable, likely not by Nemesis, but snipping off pieces of power and trading them along and melding them with other mantles happens (e.g. doing that is probably the main purpose of the Stone Table in Tir Na Nog). Taking on the santa mantle let Odin go from his original perception to the one we think of today, but it's a slow process.
I agree that Mab thinks Molly has too much soul to be a proper Winter Queen. She's too emotional to take up Mab's mantle in her eyes.
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Mab might think so but that does not make I true. I think https://www.jim-butcher.com/the-good-people shows other roads are possible.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on August 19, 2021, 05:06:24 AM ---Mab might think so but that does not make I true. I think https://www.jim-butcher.com/the-good-people shows other roads are possible.
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Yup, thanks for reminding us of the other Christmas story, too bad it wasn't included with Christmas Eve at the end of Battle Ground. But here Molly proves that she can be as tough and cold as Mab would wish, but at the same time do some good and have a little fun. But then Molly is young and time has yet to make her bitter, it could be she is what Mab should be not what she is. Winter is cold and cruel, true, but also it makes rebirth possible.
TrueMonk:
I wonder what happens if both lady and queen dies. It seems odd that it would be worse for someone random to become queen that Molly.
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