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More foreshadowing?
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on August 11, 2021, 04:17:31 AM ---I think it's like the book said. Possibilities. Not necessarily actual branch realities or all things from the prime reality.
I think option three was her getting tutored by someone other than Harry. Luccio or Morgan perhaps.
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🤔 even if you don't think they're directly connected to timelines why wouldn't this be the one where Harry teaches her tough lessons and burns her face with his little ball of sunshine? I think everyone of them isn't just a possible timeline, but a timeline Harry himself would set her down. Especially because of when/why he did the soul gaze. He was literally looking at the possibilities of his own influence or complete lack thereof.
Mira:
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on August 11, 2021, 01:03:05 PM ---🤔 even if you don't think they're directly connected to timelines why wouldn't this be the one where Harry teaches her tough lessons and burns her face with his little ball of sunshine? I think everyone of them isn't just a possible timeline, but a timeline Harry himself would set her down. Especially because of when/why he did the soul gaze. He was literally looking at the possibilities of his own influence or complete lack thereof.
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I don't think he was seeing his influence on her.. Or rather knowing Harry did have an influence up until that time for sure, but so did everything else in her life. Remember at the time of the soul gaze she had no clue of her mother's choices or what her mother was, nor did she have any clue of what the consequences of choices made by a person of talent.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on August 11, 2021, 01:03:05 PM ---🤔 even if you don't think they're directly connected to timelines why wouldn't this be the one where Harry teaches her tough lessons and burns her face with his little ball of sunshine? I think everyone of them isn't just a possible timeline, but a timeline Harry himself would set her down. Especially because of when/why he did the soul gaze. He was literally looking at the possibilities of his own influence or complete lack thereof.
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I look at them as the possibilities of her use of free will, not possibilities that revolve around Harry's free will.
It might look like it sometimes, but her life and fate doesn't and shouldn't revolve around Harry. I'd prefer to think her destiny was decided by her and not him.
In that moment, he could see what she could choose to do for herself.
* She could choose to run, to hide from the Council. She'd end up on her own on the street, desperate.
* She could go to the Council, give up her power, and live as a mortal revolving around family. A longshot, but possible.
* She could go to the Council, and let someone other than Harry (who would be harsher in discipline) train her.
* She could train with Harry.
* So many options for this one. It's too vague.
* Gives up power but leaves her family to go to school and have a career.
* Keeps power and aligns herself with Lara as an aide a la Justine.
* Gets tutored by Peabody and becomes a bureaucromancer.
* Ends up the Winter Lady and has to do a lot of paperwork.
* Also many options.
* She gets a coin.
* She gets possessed by Corpsetaker.
* She gets tutored under Peabody and becomes an evil bureaucromancer.
* She goes rogue and ends up as Cowl's apprentice.
* She goes rogue and ends up possessed by Beside or another Outsider.
* She gets turned into a Red Court vampire.
* She gets turned into a Black Court vampire.
* Some combination of these.
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on August 11, 2021, 08:26:33 PM ---I look at them as the possibilities of her use of free will, not possibilities that revolve around Harry's free will.
It might look like it sometimes, but her life and fate doesn't and shouldn't revolve around Harry.
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of course it does, he's the protagonist 🤣
Seriously though, Molly isn't an adult paving her own way, she has agency sure and no idea what to do with it. she's looking for a guide as it is, someone to show her an example of what she can do next. Harry is it, on top of the extraordinary amount of influence he has in everyone around him. An with Harry literally making the next choices on how things will play out, giving her specific options to run with. Some of those fates more heavily influenced of course. But the cheek scar has long been fabled about. (Recently feeling like knowledge has been lost here, or perhaps those who originally possessed it to spout are no longer here 🤔 ) Your view is very watsonian imo, but ignores the Doyalism of it all.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on August 11, 2021, 09:19:00 PM --- of course it does, he's the protagonist 🤣
Seriously though, Molly isn't an adult paving her own way, she has agency sure and no idea what to do with it. she's looking for a guide as it is, someone to show her an example of what she can do next. Harry is it, on top of the extraordinary amount of influence he has in everyone around him. An with Harry literally making the next choices on how things will play out, giving her specific options to run with. Some of those fates more heavily influenced of course. But the cheek scar has long been fabled about. (Recently feeling like knowledge has been lost here, or perhaps those who originally possessed it to spout are no longer here 🤔 ) Your view is very watsonian imo, but ignores the Doyalism of it all.
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Unless there's some WoJ on it that I haven't seen (and there's a lot of WoJ I haven't seen, I avoided all of them for a long time, so it's a distinct possiblity), there's not much to go on from a Doylist perspective.
It seems to me like they can all be possibilities from that point, but for them to be truths in branch realities, and foreshadowing for those branches, it'd require that there be catalysts for branches. I tend to think branches are rare, but that's based on personal preference rather than evidence. I don't like the infinite-splinterverse concept.
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