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What will Eb do?
vincentric:
Morgan had only been on the run for a day or two not years like Maggie Sr.
Mira:
--- Quote from: vincentric on September 19, 2021, 03:21:41 PM ---Morgan had only been on the run for a day or two not years like Maggie Sr.
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Yeah, I don't think it has ever been clear if she was ever a member of the Council. On one hand in the earlier books when Harry was called on the carpet by the Senior Council, those that argue he is very much like his mother was, fighting the status quo, rebelling etc, give the impression that she was.. On the other hand if she was on the "most wanted list" given that they seemed to feel the need to expel Harry from the Council first before they did that says that at least at the time of her death Margaret was no longer a member if she ever was. Plus given the problems she had with Eb says she might never have joined. Harry even says in the earlier books that he agrees with what his mother was rebelling against as far as the Council's out dated thinking. But it gets fuzzy because at that point in time anyway, Harry was still a staunch believer in the Council.. He never fully says one way or another if she was a member or still was a member when she died. He may not know.
Xamion:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on August 04, 2021, 06:24:02 AM ---Yeah see, the White Court actually broke the Accords by killing Maggie
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No? The Accords were created way after she was already dead, in fact according to Harry (in Storm Front), they were created "very recently" (and according to WoJ, the exact year seems to be 1994).
Everyone seems to think the Accords are old, but they're in fact inspired *after* the Geneva convention, so with the speed at which the magical world at large operates, it makes no sense for the Accords to be a long-standing thing.
Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: Xamion on September 20, 2021, 03:35:25 PM ---No? The Accords were created way after she was already dead, in fact according to Harry (in Storm Front), they were created "very recently" (and according to WoJ, the exact year seems to be 1994).
Everyone seems to think the Accords are old, but they're in fact inspired *after* the Geneva convention, so with the speed at which the magical world at large operates, it makes no sense for the Accords to be a long-standing thing.
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The *current* version of the Accords is from 1994. The Accords are old enough that all the players have the rules pretty well figured out. Plus, they're built on systems that are older, like guest rights. It's like the last time a bunch of people got together like in Peace Talks to update the Accords was '94.
Xamion:
--- Quote from: Second Aristh on September 20, 2021, 03:45:17 PM ---The *current* version of the Accords is from 1994. The Accords are old enough that all the players have the rules pretty well figured out. Plus, they're built on systems that are older, like guest rights. It's like the last time a bunch of people got together like in Peace Talks to update the Accords was '94.
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That's wrong, even the Dresden Files RPG says so:
"THE UNSEELIE ACCORDS
In 1994, factions from the Nevernever went to open battle with each other in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Such things had happened before, of course, but mankind had a new tool for sharing information rapidly and globally: the internet. With the advent of the Digital Age, Queen Mab recognized the need for improved security and discretion and acted accordingly—and swiftly—to end the conflict in Milwaukee and limit the potential for future outbreaks of violence. The result of this action from the Queen of Air and Darkness was the Unseelie Accords, signed by those same warring factions. Mab’s influence and will are not to be underestimated."
And the WoJ seems to be (the source I have for it does not mention where the original WoJ is from):
"How old are the Unseelie Accords? They are Mab's accords, and she hasn't been in charge forever, after all. "
The Accords are fairly recent: they were signed when Dresden was a young man, before he went independent as a detective.
If I was writing it all again, I'd probably make them something happening early in the series. Chicago would have belonged to the White Council and been their dumping ground for problem wizards--the ones who weren't quite bad enough to kill, but who had to have an eye kept on them. Harry could have conflicted with the genuine bad-guys-in-process, emotionally saved maybe Mort Lindquist (who would have been one of them) and probably screwed up hard enough for the White Council to lose Chicago, making it essentially open territory, like Casablanca."
Also, Proven Guilty states this:
"There’s a sign Mac’s got hanging up at the door that reads ACCORDED NEUTRAL GROUND. It means that the place was supposed to be a no-combat zone, under the terms laid out in the Unseelie Accords, the most recent and influential set of principles agreed upon by most of the various nations of the supernatural maybe ten or twelve years ago."
IMHO, if there *was* something equivalent to the Accords before 1994, it clearly didn't include anything which gave Eb (or the WCouncil in general) any grounds against the WCourt.
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