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groinkick:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on August 21, 2021, 06:59:15 AM ---Raphael isn't known for much in the source material, but what he *is* known for is binding demons. Twice at least. So it's a fitting description regardless.

But yeah, her comment in SmF wouldn't be about Mac. It'd be about Alfred. He's the vessel for the Grace (he calls himself a vessel), so Mab would see him as the bearer of the "mantle". So I think it could work.

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One thing to note is that Harry said something about Alfred being an Elemental when being attacked by the Lady's.  Vulnerable to elemental magic?  I don't remember.  But it may be a clue

Second Aristh:

--- Quote from: groinkick on August 22, 2021, 05:23:18 AM ---One thing to note is that Harry said something about Alfred being an Elemental when being attacked by the Lady's.  Vulnerable to elemental magic?  I don't remember.  But it may be a clue

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The fae are the collective nature spirits of the world's cultures.  As a genus loci, Alfred isn't too far away from that realm.  As rulers of those nature spirits, the Ladies had some limited amount of Authority they could use to influence the genus loci.  Not enough to be definitive or give commands to it, but the one of the Ladies probably stood a better chance than say the Archive would.  Even though she has a similiar magnitude of power.

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: groinkick on August 22, 2021, 05:23:18 AM ---One thing to note is that Harry said something about Alfred being an Elemental when being attacked by the Lady's.  Vulnerable to elemental magic?  I don't remember.  But it may be a clue

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I couldn't find a reference to Alfred being "vulnerable" or an "elemental", but I doubt read, I just used word search, so there may be something similar.

I did see where bits were coming off of Alfred's form, so the attack was doing something. But Mab seemed to imply that he could done more, which I took to mean Alfred could have taken them out. So I'm not sure how vulnerable he actually was to only a frontal assault without the big spell elsewhere.

Second Aristh:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on August 22, 2021, 03:11:03 PM ---I couldn't find a reference to Alfred being "vulnerable" or an "elemental", but I doubt read, I just used word search, so there may be something similar.

I did see where bits were coming off of Alfred's form, so the attack was doing something. But Mab seemed to imply that he could done more, which I took to mean Alfred could have taken them out. So I'm not sure how vulnerable he actually was to only a frontal assault without the big spell elsewhere.

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It's in ch.50 of CD

--- Quote ---Not only that, but Demonreach was a genius loci, a nature spirit.  The fae were intimately connected to nature on a level that no one had ever been able to fully understand.  One could probably make an argument that Demonreach was one of the fae, or at least a very close neighbor.  Either way, the mantles of the Ladies of Winter and Summer would carry a measure of dominion and power over beings like Demonreach.  Clearly they were not sovereign over the guardian spirit, because it was withstanding them.  Just as clearly, they had something going for them, because it wasn't trying to crush them either.

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The "elemental" idea probably came from ch.48

--- Quote ---And suddenly I felt very stupid.  What the fuck had I been thinking?  The Queens of Faerie, even the least of them, were elemental powers, something that was simply out of the league of any mortal.

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Mira:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on August 22, 2021, 03:11:03 PM ---I couldn't find a reference to Alfred being "vulnerable" or an "elemental", but I doubt read, I just used word search, so there may be something similar.

I did see where bits were coming off of Alfred's form, so the attack was doing something. But Mab seemed to imply that he could done more, which I took to mean Alfred could have taken them out. So I'm not sure how vulnerable he actually was to only a frontal assault without the big spell elsewhere.

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The full defenses of the island weren't up at that time either, Harry was named Warden, but other than be aware of all the crap that was going on, he didn't know how to run it yet.  What I am saying without his Warden, Alfred is vulnerable along with the island..  At the end of Ghost Story Mab referred to Harry as Alfred's Custodian.  I think it is more complicated than just responsibility for the island, Alfred's welfare is also Harry's responsibility.  Maeve's timing was no accident, if she had delayed and Harry had time to learn his job, I doubt she would have gotten as far as she did.  She wouldn't get that far now, at the end of Battle Ground Harry said that HWWB tried to sneak in as Justine because now it had to be let in, otherwise it couldn't breech the island's defenses.

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