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Mira:

--- Quote ---Him showing up as Kringle and the Wild Hunt to help Harry lead it.
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What is telling is at the end of Cold Days is the little talk between Kringle and Harry about whether or not Kringle let him win the little fight to take the lead of the Wild Hunt.  On one hand Kringle said that no one "lets" someone win the fight for leadership, but on the other hand he didn't answer really when Harry asked if that meant he could kick his ass another time.  I have to go back to read the exact wording but that is the gist of what I remember of the conversation to mean.

K.L.O.E.:

--- Quote from: Con on July 27, 2021, 08:39:17 AM ---Hmm I kinda think Battle Grounds ws the last sentence of the WOJ

"Of course, sometimes everyone’s knowledge and forethought cancels each other’s actions out, and then it’s time to get all Monday Night Nitro. No one in the Dresden Files universe is really sure how that would shake out. But everyone on that level knows that they might be about to find out"

Until I have definitive proof otherwise or until it becomes more relevant.

I think Cold Days and Skin Game is more an example of his planning things out. A few key conversations with Harry that manipulate events into saving the day.

Him showing up as Kringle and the Wild Hunt to help Harry lead it.

or Kringle recommending Goodman Grey, warning Harry about Anduriels limits.

Battle Ground was the Battle Royal.

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I agree with you. This was Titania at the height of her powers on the Summer Solstice. She did deflect the Eye which was awesome, and it was at night so it's possible she was weaker than the day. Those facts could make a difference in the fight but, if they could have won I think Titania, Odin, and the Erlking would prefer that to getting rag-dolled like trees in a hurricane.

TheCuriousFan:

--- Quote from: K.L.O.E. on July 27, 2021, 11:35:35 PM ---I agree with you. This was Titania at the height of her powers on the Summer Solstice. She did deflect the Eye which was awesome, and it was at night so it's possible she was weaker than the day. Those facts could make a difference in the fight but, if they could have won I think Titania, Odin, and the Erlking would prefer that to getting rag-dolled like trees in a hurricane.

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Especially since Vadderung is still mad about getting ragdolled like that six months later.

Griffyn612:
I don't think anyone was pulling punches. The Eye was a threat to the laws of reality itself. Newtonian chaos was about to break out on Earth. There was no do-over for this. There was no going back to the benches to figure out what to do next.

I don't see the big guns playing five-rounded Russian roulette with reality so Harry could have a big moment.

TheCuriousFan:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on July 28, 2021, 01:22:51 AM ---I don't think anyone was pulling punches. The Eye was a threat to the laws of reality itself. Newtonian chaos was about to break out on Earth. There was no do-over for this. There was no going back to the benches to figure out what to do next.

I don't see the big guns playing five-rounded Russian roulette with reality so Harry could have a big moment.

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On that note I do wonder what the long term effects of that are going to be. Are they going to find out that you can't rebuild skyscrapers toppled by the eye because reality is just broken there? Is Chicago just going to have to deal with super-ghosts and easy access by everything else from now on?

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