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Did Rashid kick Harry out of the White Council with an ulterior motive?
Mira:
--- Quote ---I think the Gatekeeper knows perhaps the best what could happen if Harry goes bad, and so he pays special attention to him. I think he has always been watching Harry and ready to nullify him if needed. I could see that by voting Harry out he is trying to protect him from the Council...but that suggests that Harry either needs to be free of the Council's restrictions (which says all sorts of bad things) or that the Council is going to fall soon and he wants Harry to avoid that demise (say the Librarians decide to end the Council, it might be good if a certain wizard is no longer associated with them).
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I think it is way more complicated than that. Several things are revealed in Cold Days when Harry visits the Gates and Rashid. 1] Harry realizes that Rashid is one of very few who know who his mother was. 2] Rashid says the Gates are almost constantly under attack, some years worse than others. 3] He uses the word "we" again, as in "What we need is you" 4] Rashid tells Harry he can help him[Rashid] best by going back to Chicago and being himself.5] Rashid tells Harry he knows "precisely" how it feels to be where he is. 6] Rashid says he will settle matters as far as Harry's return "from the dead" with the Council. 7] Most important, Rashid says;
--- Quote ---"I will do what I can. If we both survive the next several hours, I will settle matters between you and the Council,which knows only as much about our roles as it needs to--and that isn't much."
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So I take that to mean, if Rashid voted Harry out, it is because he needs him in Chicago on his own because the Council, who is almost clueless about his and Harry's roles as far as Winter is concerned, is cramping Harry's style. In other words the next few steps that have to be taken by Harry to become what he needs to become to eventually confront the Enemy, he needs to take without someone[i.e. the Council] looking over his shoulder. That's the best case I can see for Rashid voting him off, not because he fears that Harry has gone bad. Otherwise, Rashid was away still guarding the Gates, which had just weathered a severe attack, and the Merlin abused his proxy.
Further, in my opinion when Rashid uses "we," he means himself and the Winter Court. I wouldn't be shocked if it turns out that Rashid was in on the planning and bargaining with the Winter Court to pursued Margaret to conceive Harry, a star born in the first place.. Heck if Lea is his fae godmother, Rashid could very well be his godfather with sacred promises to Margaret to keep her son safe. In his own special way, Rashid had done more over the series to protect and save Harry's bacon than even his grandfather. And yes, I know Eb took up for Harry at his trial, but it doesn't sound like Eb was under the Doom with him.. Only to execute him if he appears to go warlock..
Basil:
I don't think that Rashid voted to expel Harry, as I believe he would have been very busy at the Gates. Considering differences in the flow of time, his part of the battle might not have been wrapped up by the time of the vote. More likely, as per usual, Rashid failed to attend a meeting. Merlin is pleased with this outcome because he gets an extra vote more often than not through the Council's proxy system. In the end, we simply don't know at this point.
But, I think the greater point is valid. Rashid -- like Harry -- is "in", rather than "of" the Council. Yes, Harry has been expelled; yes, Rashid is on the Senior Council. But, they are both tourists essentially. They have significant agendas that are necessarily above and beyond the concerns of the Council.
All things being equal, each would prefer the Council be strong, united and a force for good. However, each would happily go against the Council if it meant protecting Reality. McCoy and even Merlin would also say the same; however, Merlin and McCoy think that what's good for the Council and what the Council thinks is good is essentially coextensive.
Rashid, Harry and the readers know that the Council is often very parochial and far less informed than it believes.
In fact, I'd say that McCoy and Merlin have different tactics, but actually share quite a bit of outlook.
Ed0517:
Yuillegan - I was not saying Rashid could not kill Harry - I was saying he could not kill Harry without a weapon that is not shown, or using magic against the Rules - which is what I referred to when I said he (Rashid) walks his own path - beyond the rules. I'm not sure even Eb or Langtry could stand against Rashid.
And I wasn't saying he would kick him out for being linked to the WCV as a BAD thing, but cutting him loose he may have to get allies like the WCV and being Winter Knight he brings the WCV closer to Winter. Not driving him away because you are against him - but putting him in the position where he becomes a liaison between the other two signatories. A job he likely does not take if he is still Council, and a regional commander of the Wardens. He has bigger jobs to do.
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: Ed0517 on July 17, 2021, 09:09:11 AM ---Yuillegan - I was not saying Rashid could not kill Harry - I was saying he could not kill Harry without a weapon that is not shown, or using magic against the Rules - which is what I referred to when I said he (Rashid) walks his own path - beyond the rules. I'm not sure even Eb or Langtry could stand against Rashid.
And I wasn't saying he would kick him out for being linked to the WCV as a BAD thing, but cutting him loose he may have to get allies like the WCV and being Winter Knight he brings the WCV closer to Winter. Not driving him away because you are against him - but putting him in the position where he becomes a liaison between the other two signatories. A job he likely does not take if he is still Council, and a regional commander of the Wardens. He has bigger jobs to do.
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I mean if it comes time to kill somebody, he walks around with a great big stick and is quite good at knocking people out with sleep spells.
Mira:
--- Quote ---I mean if it comes time to kill somebody, he walks around with a great big stick and is quite good at knocking people out with sleep spells.
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Yeah, Rashid doesn't ask anyone to do something he can for himself.. He may be part of the Senior Council, but he is also apart from the Senior Council. Even in Turn Coat he arrived at the island ahead of the Senior Council and traveled there his own way..
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