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groinkick:
Power within the Dresden Files is just like real life in that it isn't one thing.  One person can be powerful because of money, another because of fame, another because of fighting ability, and another because of firepower.  The list goes on.

The Black Court is the strongest of the Houses in pure brute force, and magical capabilities.  These qualities made them formidable to be sure, and feared, and hated by many.  As strong as they are, they have major flaws. 

1. They are deathly vulnerable to things that aren't difficult to obtain. 
2. It is virtually impossible for them to blend in with humanity.
3. They are devoid of kindness, honesty, or trustworthiness.  They have no real friends or allies.
4.  Although they are capable of intelligence, and cunning, it isn't a defining quality of the species.

The White Court is not on their level with regards to brute force, and magical power, but they are very dangerous.  As I mentioned earlier, there is more than one route to power.  The White Court uses intelligence, guile, misdirection, manipulation, political connections, and wealth. 

The White Court could never have faced the Black Court in a head to head fight, but they didn't need to.  They took sensitive information about the Black Court's exploits and made it very public.  Then all they had to do was sit back and watch as all the people who hated, and feared the Black Court hunted them down.

The White Court brought them down without ever putting themselves into harms way. 

A good comparison would be Winter Knight Harry Dresden vs vanilla mortal John Marcone.  Sure Harry could absolutely destroy Marcone, but Marcone wouldn't face him directly.  He'd have someone pick Harry off from 500 yards with a 50 cal. 

So the White Court might be underpowered in some ways vs the Black Court, but who's on the run, hiding, and facing extinction?

Mira:


Exactly..

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: groinkick on July 09, 2021, 05:00:16 AM ---Power within the Dresden Files is just like real life in that it isn't one thing.  One person can be powerful because of money, another because of fame, another because of fighting ability, and another because of firepower.  The list goes on.

The Black Court is the strongest of the Houses in pure brute force, and magical capabilities.  These qualities made them formidable to be sure, and feared, and hated by many.  As strong as they are, they have major flaws. 

1. They are deathly vulnerable to things that aren't difficult to obtain. 
2. It is virtually impossible for them to blend in with humanity.
3. They are devoid of kindness, honesty, or trustworthiness.  They have no real friends or allies.
4.  Although they are capable of intelligence, and cunning, it isn't a defining quality of the species.

The White Court is not on their level with regards to brute force, and magical power, but they are very dangerous.  As I mentioned earlier, there is more than one route to power.  The White Court uses intelligence, guile, misdirection, manipulation, political connections, and wealth. 

The White Court could never have faced the Black Court in a head to head fight, but they didn't need to.  They took sensitive information about the Black Court's exploits and made it very public.  Then all they had to do was sit back and watch as all the people who hated, and feared the Black Court hunted them down.

The White Court brought them down without ever putting themselves into harms way. 

A good comparison would be Winter Knight Harry Dresden vs vanilla mortal John Marcone.  Sure Harry could absolutely destroy Marcone, but Marcone wouldn't face him directly.  He'd have someone pick Harry off from 500 yards with a 50 cal. 

So the White Court might be underpowered in some ways vs the Black Court, but who's on the run, hiding, and facing extinction?

--- End quote ---
We're basically agreed. What the Wamps lack in raw power and ability, they make up for with other resources. I have no problem acknowledging that Titans are more powerful than wizards, and also acknowledging that Harry beat a Titan when armed with the right resources.

But the Blamps' greatest weakness isn't garlic or holy water or sunlight, or even that they don't play well with each other or others. It's their age, and the time it takes for one to gain enough power and influence to enact change.

We've seen the same thing with wizards and Ramps. The elders are slow to adapt to new ideas.

If a modern human could be turned into a Blamp and given enough power and authority to enact change, then they'd be terrifying.

I expect we might see just that in the near future with Yoshimo, Wild Bill, and/or Chandler. If modern wizards with power and experience fighting a modern war with modern weapons are given authority in Drakul's ranks, then we could see a formidable Blamp army in the near future.

Blamps with enchanted cloaks that holy water rolls off of like blood off Warden cloaks. Wind charms created by Dark Yoshimo that keep a breeze blowing around Blamps to prevent garlic from hitting them full on. Renfields trained by camp kaboom veteran Wild Bill, covered in body armor and modern weapons and working like a military unit to protect high value assets, or crossing thresholds to drag victims out of their homes.

That's assuming the Blamps haven't been stockpiling items touched by True Love from their victims to use in an assault against the Wamps when they're ready. Imagine them collecting souvenirs and testing them on a captured Wamp for a hundred years.

Given the right mindset, the Blamps can be just as resourceful as the Wamps.

Mira:

--- Quote ---Given the right mindset, the Blamps can be just as resourceful as the Wamps.
--- End quote ---

I don't disagree, however is it a given that  Yoshimo, Wild Bill will automatically fight on the side of the Blamps?  Yes, they are turned and will have to kill to survive, but after a lifetime of being a Warden it is still possible that part of who they were will survive.  It that is true, Mavra's plan may blow up in her face.  I think we will see Chandler again, I think Harry will find him when he does his thing in the alternate timeline, and he will be an ally.

forumghost:
Pretty sure if that was an option they'd have discovered it and stopped converting enemies by now.

There's pretty much got to be a degree of mental contamination from the conversion to egomaniac super-zombie to make them always chaotic evil.

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