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How hard did Ebenezar try to kill Lord Raith?
vultur:
--- Quote from: vincentric on June 23, 2021, 11:16:13 PM ---Why would they need drones and hellfire missiles? The Librarians wouldn't need that against any lone wizard Kincaid may be the best but there are dozens of Special Forces snipers that could make the shot that took out Harry.
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Eb's protections are likely much better than Harry's; IIRC his robes have an effect like Harry's duster, but protecting his whole body, not just what the enchanted fabric covers. (And that sniper rifle would not have killed Harry if he'd had his duster on...)
Going after Eb in his home, I doubt drones would be enough. That farm's probably got wards against pretty much every possible form of attack.
--- Quote ---Plus as Harry as said throughout the books, the Supernatural World needs secrecy because while mortals are weak individually, they outnumber the monsters by a huge factor.
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That's true for most of the mortal-world-inhabiting factions, such as the Council and Vampire Courts. It's not quite universal, though...
--- Quote --- Without the Eye, Ethniu would have been the only survivor if they were out in the open when the helicopter squadron showed up.
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Not really, there were Immortals around, missiles won't kill them. And I'd expect top end wizard shields - eg Senior Council or really experienced Wardens - to block anything below nuclear level, given what Harry's shield has withstood when "powered up" (eg explosions at end of WN, Lily's metal-melting fire wave in CD). River Shoulders probably has equal or better power level, in a different way (diffusing the energy?) Etc.
vincentric:
I was mostly referring to the invading Formor army when speaking of the helicopter attack but I'll stand by it while pointing out the exceptions.
Ethniu, Vadderung, Harry, Eb, Corb, Cristos, Marcone, Ivy and Ramirez can shield.( Ferro isn't there, neither is Martha Liberty)
Mab, Molly, Titania and the Erlking are gonna go down temporarily, there's just too much steel flying about.
Everybody else from either army is gonna be really, really dead.
So we go from, two armies with 15K or so total fighting to a couple of handfuls of the elite. And that's what'll happen in non ambush scenario of supernatural vs military. Even if the magical forces can lead off with hexes, enough soldiers with rifles will eventually overwhelm them Horrific casualty exchange rate, yes, but an aroused and motivated humanity wins.
Arjan:
The big guns can simply retreat to the nevernever taking some of their people with them.
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: vincentric on June 25, 2021, 01:10:24 AM ---I was mostly referring to the invading Formor army when speaking of the helicopter attack but I'll stand by it while pointing out the exceptions.
Ethniu, Vadderung, Harry, Eb, Corb, Cristos, Marcone, Ivy and Ramirez can shield.( Ferro isn't there, neither is Martha Liberty)
Mab, Molly, Titania and the Erlking are gonna go down temporarily, there's just too much steel flying about.
Everybody else from either army is gonna be really, really dead.
So we go from, two armies with 15K or so total fighting to a couple of handfuls of the elite. And that's what'll happen in non ambush scenario of supernatural vs military. Even if the magical forces can lead off with hexes, enough soldiers with rifles will eventually overwhelm them Horrific casualty exchange rate, yes, but an aroused and motivated humanity wins.
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That sort of logic is why any hypothetical war with humanity is going to revolve around sneak attacks rather than straight brawling. All the fancy toys in the world don't matter if the bases are withering on the vine because of infrastructure collapse as one example.
The_Sibelis:
I actually suspect it's a bigger issue of the Black Staff's power VS whatever Raith has for protection. It didn't just stop his attacks, it stopped them from even manifesting. So say he tried to drop a satellite, didn't move. Massive volcano, misfired. Earthquake, hits the wrong area. It... Entropies his entropic(subtractive, deadly, whatever it is) magic. It specifically negates the blackstaff's ability. And Eb, being so wrapped up in who he is with it he never considered trying anything else. Old Wizards, brittle, stuck in their ways..
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