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Marcone could probably beat Harry in a duel.
Mira:
--- Quote from: vincentric on June 21, 2021, 05:10:26 PM ---A broken neck is not an instantly or even 100% fatal wound. If she had instead popped his head off and threw it into the lake Marcone would be dead and the coin would have just be lying there on his headless corpse.
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Yup, that would kind of having the same effect as chopping his head off with a Holy Sword.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: vincentric on June 21, 2021, 05:10:26 PM ---A broken neck is not an instantly or even 100% fatal wound.
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It depends entirely on the damage to the spinal cord. His head had been turned 180 degrees. His spinal cord would have been completely severed resulting in an instant death.
--- Quote ---If she had instead popped his head off and threw it into the lake Marcone would be dead and the coin would have just be lying there on his headless corpse.
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We don't know this for sure. When Michael beheaded Thorned, he quickly followed by cutting off his hand, separating the Coin from the body. Blood on his Soul was smashed to pulp, and somehow survived. The Coins display different abilities. No two are the same. So if Marcone's head had been removed, and the Coin was still in contact with his torso, who knows what could happen. His head may grow back, or his body may have gotten up, and reattach the head.
All we do know is that Marcone sustained an injury that would have resulted in an instant death, and he recovered in moments.
Mira:
--- Quote ---All we do know is that Marcone sustained an injury that would have resulted in an instant death, and he recovered in moments.
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But did he really? The coin has that power, Marcone doesn't.. Remove the coin and what happens to him then? For all we know, he might now be no more than an animated corpse, remove the coin, and his head falls off. However it does explain how the Denarian sashquash came back after being squashed to pulp in Hades, he wasn't separated from the coin.. But then both Deidre and Hannah should also be able to come back unless Hades got a hold of their coins. Or to do in the host of a coin, a Holy Sword is needed to break the connection, other methods are merely set backs.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 23, 2021, 10:41:44 AM ---But did he really? The coin has that power, Marcone doesn't.. Remove the coin and what happens to him then? For all we know, he might now be no more than an animated corpse, remove the coin, and his head falls off. However it does explain how the Denarian sashquash came back after being squashed to pulp in Hades, he wasn't separated from the coin..
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It's unlikely that Marcone would be an animated corpse. Then there would no longer be any Choice involved. No Knight could offer him redemption because he'd just be a dead body. I don't see why his body would un-heal and fall apart after being repaired. Not only that but other Coin holders have given up Coin's without aging really quickly, or dying, which should have happened if the only thing sustaining them was a Coin.
--- Quote ---But then both Deidre and Hannah should also be able to come back unless Hades got a hold of their coins. Or to do in the host of a coin, a Holy Sword is needed to break the connection, other methods are merely set backs.
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I wouldn't be shocked if Hannah is running around still. Diedre gave up her Coin to Nicodemus before he killed her.
Mira:
--- Quote ---It's unlikely that Marcone would be an animated corpse. Then there would no longer be any Choice involved. No Knight could offer him redemption because he'd just be a dead body. I don't see why his body would un-heal and fall apart after being repaired. Not only that but other Coin holders have given up Coin's without aging really quickly, or dying, which should have happened if the only thing sustaining them was a Coin.
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That isn't quite true, it depends on how long they'd held the coin. Cassius, after he gave up his coin aged quite rapidly. Who knows if Marcone is or isn't? As far as that goes, Michael didn't offer old Thorny a chance at redemption, never asked the question, just lopped off his head.. What is unusual is he also cut off his hand to get the coin.. That is different from other Denarains who have been killed by the Holy Knights, usually from what I remember if they have to kill them, the coins just leave the body and they collect them.
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