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"It is not yet your hour."
KurtinStGeorge:
To to remind anyone who doesn't quite remember what the subject line refers to, it's from Turn Coat when the Gatekeeper confronts Harry on the 'What's up dock'." Specifically, Rashid's dialog with Harry goes like this:
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"And I cannot permit you to openly challenge the White Council to battle."
"No?" I asked, thrusting out my jaw. "Why not?"
His deep, resonant voice sounded troubled. "It is not yet your hour."
I felt my eyebrows go up. "Not yet...?"
He shook his head. "Places in time. This is not the time, or the place....
The first thing I noticed while rereading this passage is that; according to the Gatekeeper, while we can't know the location where Harry will eventually challenge the Council, it won't be on Demonreach. Then again, maybe Harry will challenge the Council to come to Demonreach Island, but they just won't be dumb enough to do that. However, the location of this future showdown is not the primary reason I started this thread.
What I want to do is ask everyone, what do you think will cause Harry to take a direct stand again the White Council? I suppose it could be something as simple as the Council announcing they've declared Harry an outlaw and he preempts them by making the first move, but knowing Harry, he will probably only make an overt challenge against the Council in response to a moral issue he feels he can't back away from. What do you think that could be? Will the Council cross some moral boundary Harry can't accept or will it be something closer to home, like the Council learning about Bob and, or Bonea and demanding they be destroyed? What scenarios have you thought up that would push Harry to take such an extreme action?
Mira:
--- Quote ---What I want to do is ask everyone, what do you think will cause Harry to take a direct stand again the White Council? I suppose it could be something as simple as the Council announcing they've declared Harry an outlaw and he preempts them by making the first move, but knowing Harry, he will probably only make an overt challenge against the Council in response to a moral issue he feels he can't back away from. What do you think that could be? Will the Council cross some moral boundary Harry can't accept or will it be something closer to home, like the Council learning about Bob and, or Bonea and demanding they be destroyed? What scenarios have you thought up that would push Harry to take such an extreme action?
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I've thought about this quite a bit, actually it is another of my favorite passages from the series, mainly because Rashid is one of my favorite characters.
In answer to your question, it may be a moral line that the Council crosses, but it won't be a simple line. It may be a gray area of the Laws of Magic he will ask them to go into, or it's a situation so dire, that some of the Laws have to be broken to prevent disaster. The Merlin and the Senior Council will fall back on the non-involvement clause in their charter, basically CYA for wizards. Harry will argue that it is a moral imperative that they do become involved. If they refuse they are no better than any black magic wielding warlock out there, also pointing out some of the hypocrisy on the part of some of the more august senior members, given their past behaviors. In answer, they will either burn him down or follow him.. ::) Either way, the Council will never be the same again after this.
Arjan:
Harry will be too busy saving the world and as usual the white council only gets in the way or worse.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on June 08, 2021, 07:06:29 PM ---Harry will be too busy saving the world and as usual the white council only gets in the way or worse.
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Yeah, but he cannot do it alone, that is my point.. While Harry understands to make a cake you usually have to break a few eggs, the Council doesn't.
forumghost:
I continue to be perplexed by this line being read like this. I thought the phrase "not your hour" was generally considered a reference to the bible quote that Jesus uses to refer to the crucifixion (ie his death).
"It is not yet your hour" is Rashid telling Harry to stop being a twat and trying to throw down with the Council because he'll die if he does, and Harry dying will cause issues later.
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