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Nemesis can only be in 13 places at once?
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on June 16, 2021, 04:21:12 AM ---I like the Lord Raith history, and Cowl's too.
Not sure that I am convinced on the 3 parts of Nemesis or the order of events, but it's an interesting take.
I think we haven't seen the Walkers full power yet. I think that will be available as things get more chaotic.
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I think the Walkers are limited by their hosts to some extent. Before was in a human (Vito if you accept the tongue-in-cheek WoJ) and jumped ship as soon as the body was damaged beyond repair. Beside couldn't really control Cat Sith, likely because of built-in limitations thanks to the Sidhe rules. And Justine is just a human, so she's probably got caps on what can be done with her body.
If we see Before and Beside in better bodies, they will probably be more of a threat.
And if they ever get actual pieces of their own bodies inside reality, then I'm sure it'll be on Lovecraft levels of madness. (That's what I expect parts of the capstone trilogy to be like. Post-apocalyptic a la The Black Company, with regions of the earth falling to demigods and outsiders and all the other dark things)
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on June 18, 2021, 02:07:19 AM ---I think the Walkers are limited by their hosts to some extent. Before was in a human (Vito if you accept the tongue-in-cheek WoJ) and jumped ship as soon as the body was damaged beyond repair. Beside couldn't really control Cat Sith, likely because of built-in limitations thanks to the Sidhe rules. And Justine is just a human, so she's probably got caps on what can be done with her body.
If we see Before and Beside in better bodies, they will probably be more of a threat.
And if they ever get actual pieces of their own bodies inside reality, then I'm sure it'll be on Lovecraft levels of madness. (That's what I expect parts of the capstone trilogy to be like. Post-apocalyptic a la The Black Company, with regions of the earth falling to demigods and outsiders and all the other dark things)
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I thought it was interesting she ripped a large section of steel from the boat in Battle Ground.... Nemesis appears to be able to enhance his hosts abilities to some extent.
Also, if there are 3 Walkers, what the heck is Drakul? It's something trapped in mortal form who's throwing around wizard magic. I think he's a Starborn wizard who somehow has something from the Outside enslaved within himself. Nemesis maybe?
Another odd but curious thing... He Who Walks Beside, and Mother Winters walking stick... Wonder if there is a connection?
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: groinkick on June 18, 2021, 03:44:40 AM ---I thought it was interesting she ripped a large section of steel from the boat in Battle Ground.... Nemesis appears to be able to enhance his hosts abilities to some extent.
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Sure. It's probably similar to a mantle. It's more or less abiding by laws of inside magic, particularly when enforced by a starborn. Harry used the rule of three to demand Before and Beside's names.
Justine is probably suped up like Harry with the WK mantle. If he hadn't been exhausted, he probably could have defeated her then and there.
Hell, if he'd just kept quiet about his suspicion and told Alfred she was an uninfected m invited guest upon their arrival, he could have trapped her.
vincentric:
Yep, despite the exhaustion Harry clearly planned for the Alfred to take her out after running the boat aground. If he waits five minutes, just gathering his thoughts and resting, she'd have stepped onto the island with him and that would have been that. Of course that would kinda kill many of the future books so Jim wrote it in a way that keeps his livelihood going.
CrusherJen:
Harry needed a crystal from Demonreach and blood from Ethniu to bind the Titan from afar, off-island. On the boat, Harry didn't have a crystal, and he was exhausted, so any battle with Nemfected!Justine was likely to go poorly.
Once they reached the island, it's possible Alfred could directly intervene and grab N!Justine (based on Harry's threat to Mab in Cold Days.) He probably could have brought Harry a crystal, if it was still needed, but could Harry get N!Justine's blood before she did major damage to the island's defenses? This is something I'm not sure about; we haven't seen exactly what Nemfected humans are capable of just yet. But N!Justine felt she had pretty good odds once she'd gotten to Demonreach... so preventing her from getting to the island was likely the best move. And as vincentric says, it keeps the storyline open for future books, which from a writer's perspective is valuable.
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