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Mirror Mirror character changes ideas
Mira:
Little Harry, his name sake that he saved when he saved the pregnant Charity, like his older sister, has talent and is more pure warlock than Molly ever was. He could even be on his way to becoming the next Kemmler.. So for the sake of mankind, Harry go back and changes things so though he still saves Charity, she loses the baby..
Griffyn612:
Mirrorverse Teams
Team Dresden
* Harry Dresden, necromancer, Baron of Chicago, noose-bearer
* Molly Carpenter, mind-mage
* Rat, dark twisted temple dog gifted to Harry by Mavra
* Li Xian, ghoul, Dresden's drummer
* Nelson, magically enhanced human, Molly's drummer
* Evil Bob, full entity
* Alfred
* Street Wolves, local pack of lycanthropes
* Grevane, necromancer, loose ally
* Darth Wannabe and fellow dark mages
* Aristedes and subordinate humans
* Mavra, black Court vampire, liaison with Black Court
* Susan Rodriguez, red Court leader in Chicago, liaison with Red Court
* Lea-Nemesis, helps Harry with Outsider magic
* Outsiders, summoned and trapped in Demonreach
* Inari Raith, liaison with White Court under Lord Raith
* Lacuna, captain of Harry's little folk forces
* Francisca Garcia/Lasciel, liaison with Denarians
Team Chicago
* Karrin Murphy, owner of Fidelacchius
* John Marcone, leader of Chicago Resistance
* Sarissa, Winter liaison
* Alphas, local werewolf pack
* Lara Raith, former quasi-ally of Harry's that turned as he went darker and she rebelled against her father
* Agent Barry Tilly
* Mac, back in
* Mortimer Lindquist, protects shades from Harry consuming them
* Fitz, escaped Aristedes, apprentices with Lindquist
* Special Investigations
* Toot-Toot, allied with Karrin when Harry went too dark
* Hendricks
* Gard
* Mister
Team Winter
* Mother Winter
* Mab
* Maeve, uninfected
* Thomas Raith, Winter Knight
Team Summer
* Mother Summer
* Titania
* Lily
* Ace, Summer Knight
Deceased
* Michael Carpenter
* Waldo Butters
* Fix
* Justine
* Most of the White Council
* Nicodemus
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on September 19, 2021, 07:00:05 PM ---Mirrorverse Teams
Team Dresden
* Harry Dresden, necromancer, Baron of Chicago, noose-bearer
* Molly Carpenter, mind-mage
* Rat, dark twisted temple dog gifted to Harry by Mavra
* Li Xian, ghoul, Dresden's drummer
* Nelson, magically enhanced human, Molly's drummer
* Evil Bob, full entity
* Alfred
* Street Wolves, local pack of lycanthropes
* Grevane, necromancer, loose ally
* Darth Wannabe and fellow dark mages
* Aristedes and subordinate humans
* Mavra, black Court vampire, liaison with Black Court
* Susan Rodriguez, red Court leader in Chicago, liaison with Red Court
* Lea-Nemesis, helps Harry with Outsider magic
* Outsiders, summoned and trapped in Demonreach
* Inari Raith, liaison with White Court under Lord Raith
* Lacuna, captain of Harry's little folk forces
* Francisca Garcia/Lasciel, liaison with Denarians
Team Chicago
* Karrin Murphy, owner of Fidelacchius
* John Marcone, leader of Chicago Resistance
* Sarissa, Winter liaison
* Alphas, local werewolf pack
* Lara Raith, former quasi-ally of Harry's that turned as he went darker and she rebelled against her father
* Agent Barry Tilly
* Mac, back in
* Mortimer Lindquist, protects shades from Harry consuming them
* Fitz, escaped Aristedes, apprentices with Lindquist
* Special Investigations
* Toot-Toot, allied with Karrin when Harry went too dark
* Hendricks
* Gard
* Mister
Team Winter
* Mother Winter
* Mab
* Maeve, uninfected
* Thomas Raith, Winter Knight
Team Summer
* Mother Summer
* Titania
* Lily
* Ace, Summer Knight
Deceased
* Michael Carpenter
* Waldo Butters
* Fix
* Justine
* Most of the White Council
* Nicodemus
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What do you think the choice he made that altered things?
--- Quote from: LostInTime on September 19, 2021, 04:45:23 PM ---Michael is the ally that is now an enemy. Michael will be a Blampire or Rampire.
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Very well could be.
--- Quote ---Mirror Harry works with Marcone.
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I think the opposite. Marcone is the good guy, Harry the bad
--- Quote ---Who was dead and is alive in the Mirrorverse. Clearly, this is Murphy.
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I think Susan & Murphy
--- Quote ---One friend who is changed for the worse. Molly, who is either a warlock and on the run or is dead.
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Harry visits Thomas's grave. He died trying to do the right thing. Or he's the new leader of the White Court and just like his father, who he killed. Molly could very well be a warlock, or maybe a warden under the training of Morgan is hunting Harry.
--- Quote ---Someone he learns a great deal about will be Chandler. Jim dropped a big hint that we'll see Chandler again in the Mirrorverse.
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Could be darn interesting.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: groinkick on September 20, 2021, 04:29:04 AM ---What do you think the choice he made that altered things?
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My guess is that Harry didn't say he loved Susan in the basement of Bianca's mansion. She went feral, knocked him out but didn't kill him because of the poison in his blood, so she killed Justine instead.
Upon waking up, Harry got out and headed upstairs to find Susan fully turned with Bianca. He couldn't kill Susan, so he walked away rather than fighting.
I also like to think he still beat the Nightmare while unconscious, and ate his power. By not using it to destroy the mansion, is stayed within him, partially corrupting him.
I also think Bianca could have sent footage of Harry's attack at the party to the White Council, which declared him a full warlock. Since the place wasn't completely destroyed like it was in GP, security footage might have survived.
Thus Harry starts on the dark path with isolation and regret while being hunted by everyone.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on September 20, 2021, 04:56:12 AM ---My guess is that Harry didn't say he loved Susan in the basement of Bianca's mansion. She went feral, knocked him out but didn't kill him because of the poison in his blood, so she killed Justine instead.
Upon waking up, Harry got out and headed upstairs to find Susan fully turned with Bianca. He couldn't kill Susan, so he walked away rather than fighting.
I also like to think he still beat the Nightmare while unconscious, and ate his power. By not using it to destroy the mansion, is stayed within him, partially corrupting him.
I also think Bianca could have sent footage of Harry's attack at the party to the White Council, which declared him a full warlock. Since the place wasn't completely destroyed like it was in GP, security footage might have survived.
Thus Harry starts on the dark path with isolation and regret while being hunted by everyone.
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Oh that's a great theory. I don't think he beat the nightmare. He's lost his love, and his power. Bianca wants him to live a long life like this, and lets him leave. He swears to himself that he will do whatever it takes to make her pay. He asks Bob how he can charge up his power in a hurry. Bob refuses to tell until Harry makes it an order. It's there that he begins tapping into Necromancy. He must start small in his weakened state, just a single shade at a time, but consumes more, and more. Not only does he gain all his power back, he surpasses it.
As for his standing with the White Council. I don't know if he will be declared a warlock. I think he gets kicked out for violating the Accords. It's later on that they discover he's using necromancy that they go after him, or maybe he nukes Bianca's place to get revenge resulting in many casualties, including mortal security. White Council finds out, deems him a warlock.
I also wonder if Harry will be straight up evil, or will he be more like the Harry we wished he would be sometimes (smarter, doesn't hold back against enemies). Maybe he see's killing other Harry's as not murder because it's just him lol
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