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How Murphy could return to the Dresden Files
Mira:
--- Quote from: groinkick on April 11, 2021, 05:31:05 AM ---Although this could happen, it would be kind of lame to me. It wouldn't really be our Murphy. She'd have different life experiences, and in a way it would feel like her death had been cheapened, and not important.
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Our Murphy isn't coming back, she is D-E-A-D. What will come back may look like her, but it won't be her. That is why I say be careful for what you wish for, you may get it.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on April 11, 2021, 05:20:09 PM --- Our Murphy isn't coming back, she is D-E-A-D. What will come back may look like her, but it won't be her. That is why I say be careful for what you wish for, you may get it.
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Harry was dead. Harry talked to his father and he was also dead. According to Uriel it is not about your body, it is about your soul.
Harry talked to Murphy’s dad. They were both dead but they were both Harry and Murphy’s father.
Dead, alive, Valkyrie, Einherjar, shade, whatever.
As long as Murphy’s soul is in there it will be Murphy.
TrueMonk:
To me the einharjar seems like a pretty likely representation of vikings who died in glorious battle.
Do they seem different than people today? Yes, because lived more than 1000 years ago and was raised in a sort of warrior cult society where the best fate they could imagine was to die in glorious battle. So they could be rewarded with fighting to death every day to prepare for ragnarok. I mean, of course they are a bit odd.
I have not seen anything to suggest that they have been changed by becoming einharjaren. A serious argument for that should quote the books.
Mira:
--- Quote ---Harry was dead. Harry talked to his father and he was also dead. According to Uriel it is not about your body, it is about your soul.
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No, Harry was only mostly dead, that was the dangers of his soul's walk about. Uriel needed Harry to learn some important lessons, but there were risks. Mort and Bob both confirmed that Harry's body wasn't all dead, thus he was neither fish nor foul not having the normal protections that ghost or soul get. If Uriel hadn't been able to overrule Mab and Alfred, I believe Mab would have brought Harry back instantly, or just let him slide on that timeline beyond reclaiming life.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on April 12, 2021, 02:56:12 PM ---No, Harry was only mostly dead,
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That is your interpretation. Jim and everyone in the books disagrees.
Harry crossed the line. He returned from the dead.
--- Quote ---that was the dangers of his soul's walk about. Uriel needed Harry to learn some important lessons, but there were risks. Mort and Bob both confirmed that Harry's body wasn't all dead, thus he was neither fish nor foul not having the normal protections that ghost or soul get. If Uriel hadn't been able to overrule Mab and Alfred, I believe Mab would have brought Harry back instantly, or just let him slide on that timeline beyond reclaiming life.
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Or as Lash said you have to die to understand. Or as Lea said what is the use of being dead if it is not a learning experience.
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