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Demonreach and the NeverNever

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Yuillegan:

--- Quote from: Avernite on January 24, 2021, 10:48:00 AM ---I think a key question is, what is Demonreach really for.

I mean, we learned Hades' vault is an armory of weapons stored away because they're dangerous if misused. That same thing could sort of describe Demonreach, depending on just how much the Warden can use the inmates. If it's an armory of people, it might as well connect to Valhalla or Fólkvangr (or other places where the dead souls linger awaiting battle) rather than Tartaros (where the imprisoned are to suffer/be punished).

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Well we know that some of the mechanics of the cells allow the Warden to choose the punishment of the inmate. But it's an intriguing idea that the prison is merely a front for it's real purpose. Perhaps as an armory or forge or even as a power source.


--- Quote from: Arjan on January 24, 2021, 11:58:06 AM ---There is no other reason to release them than a break of the gates and a massive outsider break through.

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But it's already been stated in Battle Ground that Harry could use the inmates as his own personal attack dogs or assistants or whatever. So there is clearly more than one use for them. Kemmler clearly had his own use for them...

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Yuillegan on January 25, 2021, 12:26:22 PM ---Well we know that some of the mechanics of the cells allow the Warden to choose the punishment of the inmate. But it's an intriguing idea that the prison is merely a front for it's real purpose. Perhaps as an armory or forge or even as a power source.
But it's already been stated in Battle Ground that Harry could use the inmates as his own personal attack dogs or assistants or whatever. So there is clearly more than one use for them. Kemmler clearly had his own use for them...

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As far as we know Kemmler did not release any of the inmates.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Arjan on January 25, 2021, 02:38:20 PM ---As far as we know Kemmler did not release any of the inmates.

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There is a lot we don't know about Kemmler, as in was he still Warden of Demonreach when he was taken down?  If he wasn't, why not?  I think whether or not Harry could use any of the inmates to
do his bidding is open to question.  Theoretically, according to what we know, yes.  However it that wise?  Harry has only barely scratched the surface as far as studying them, and runs the risk of insanity every time he does it..  Theoretically they are his prisoners to control, but in reality and practically is that true?  Here is a random thought, perhaps Kemmler did attempt to do just that and
was fired by Alfred for just that.  Merlin must of realized this kind of abuse of power could come about and there are controls, even on the Warden.

BrainFireBob:
I personally favor Demonreach being intended for the original Darkhallow in conjunction with the Blackstaff to siphon off the taint- think of it as a cleansing ritual for the power inside. Recall that power has purpose- every nasty in Demonreach isn't doing its appointed job.

Kemmler could have been trying to adapt the ritual- or bulk himself up to withstand doing it on the island without the Blackstaff.

morriswalters:

--- Quote from: Avernite on January 24, 2021, 10:48:00 AM ---I think a key question is, what is Demonreach really for.

I mean, we learned Hades' vault is an armory of weapons stored away because they're dangerous if misused. That same thing could sort of describe Demonreach, depending on just how much the Warden can use the inmates. If it's an armory of people, it might as well connect to Valhalla or Fólkvangr (or other places where the dead souls linger awaiting battle) rather than Tartaros (where the imprisoned are to suffer/be punished).

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Based off the statement from Alfred that they are always dangerous using them would seem for my point of view to indicate it a last resort.  But since wherever they are they aren't in this reality. If you closed the door in the future then then prison would be locked away from that reality since they never got out in the past. This is the kind of shenanigans you can get up to with time travel.

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