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Harry is about to learn new tricks!

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TheCuriousFan:

--- Quote from: Mira on January 14, 2021, 06:44:11 AM ---Oh I think he is.  Why?  Because he uses them on a regular basis now.  In the early books he rarely used them and said he sucked at doing them.  Veils are not a natural skill for him like they are for Molly, Justin didn't seem to push them as a skill, Eb didn't seem interested or was under orders not
to hone sixteen year old Harry's skills in the three years he lived with him under the Doom as apprentice.  So he was never taught the skill beyond the basics and feel the need to practice it. Training Molly, he may have learned from her doing her thing naturally. Or more likely he worked harder at the skill because he had to keep on top of it to work with her.  No, he may never reach Molly's level, but he is decent at them now, and will get better as time goes on.  Face it, if you have a couple of hundred years to practice a skill, over time you will get rather good at it.

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Eb focused on more important things, like teaching Harry not to be the killing machine he was raised to be.

Mira:

--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on January 14, 2021, 12:34:30 PM ---Eb focused on more important things, like teaching Harry not to be the killing machine he was raised to be.

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  I know that, my point is he never pushed on or taught Harry anymore skills than he had already learned.  So when we first meet Harry, he is very powerful, but all his skills are crude and he cheats
to refine what he needs to refine to survive.  He has lots of KABOOM, but no control, so he uses a blasting rod instead of taking the time to learn how to refine. 

grogleberry:

--- Quote from: Mira on January 14, 2021, 06:44:11 AM ---Oh I think he is.  Why?  Because he uses them on a regular basis now.  In the early books he rarely used them and said he sucked at doing them.  Veils are not a natural skill for him like they are for Molly, Justin didn't seem to push them as a skill, Eb didn't seem interested or was under orders not
to hone sixteen year old Harry's skills in the three years he lived with him under the Doom as apprentice.  So he was never taught the skill beyond the basics and feel the need to practice it. Training Molly, he may have learned from her doing her thing naturally. Or more likely he worked harder at the skill because he had to keep on top of it to work with her.  No, he may never reach Molly's level, but he is decent at them now, and will get better as time goes on.  Face it, if you have a couple of hundred years to practice a skill, over time you will get rather good at it.

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"Good" is relative I suppose. He's not incompetent at them, and he has a tendency to underrate his abilities, or at least err on the side of caution with how he rates them.

But nevertheless, he's not a finesse-focused wizard, in the way he describes Molly or Carlos, or even Ebenezar, who's both finesse and power. Teleportation is presented as something that requires finesse, rather than power (as Marcone can do it despite himself not being magically inclined, via Namshiel). It doesn't sound like something that someone who's merely competent at other tricky magic, like glamour, veils, mind magic and such, would be particularly good at.

That doesn't mean he doesn't give it a go. If he does though, I doubt it'll be the sort of straightforward power up that he can make easy use of at all times, the way we see Marcone, Drakul or Mab use it as a massive tactical advantage. It sounds more like something he'll use at great risk to himself as an act of desperation - eg he's trapped in a location that he can't otherwise magic his way out of, or he needs to get somewhere he can't otherwise reach. And it'll give him a mild aneurysm, or ruptured internal organs or something, that requires him to recuperate for weeks (after he's saved the day), and decide never to use it again.

Mira:

--- Quote ---But nevertheless, he's not a finesse-focused wizard, in the way he describes Molly or Carlos, or even Ebenezar, who's both finesse and power. Teleportation is presented as something that requires finesse, rather than power (as Marcone can do it despite himself not being magically inclined, via Namshiel). It doesn't sound like something that someone who's merely competent at other tricky magic, like glamour, veils, mind magic and such, would be particularly good at.

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He is more focused than he used to be.  Marcone isn't doing it, Namshiel is..  We don't know if Harry lacks the finesse to learn teleportation, he was barred from even studying it wasn't he.  It could turn out that he has a very natural talent for it.  In fact it might turn out to be true, consider, Jim usually doesn't introduce such things just for the sake of it.  Harry mentions that he did have a passing interest but wasn't allowed near the books that contained the knowledge he needs.  Traveling back and forth from Demonreach to Chicago is a pain in the ass and he has lost the transport that he had. There doesn't seem to be a safe way through the Nevernever either.  So the most logical way and quickest way for him to do it, is teleportation.  So I wouldn't be shocked if Harry finds a way to study the art and becomes fairly good at it.

morriswalters:

--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on January 13, 2021, 06:15:49 AM ---Mwahahaha! I can see great potential in combining a teleportation spell with the knowledge of the ways Harry got from his mother. Imagine the terror his enemies would have when suddenly he can appear at will all across the globe and throughout the NN! And it would open up the wider world in the DF too.

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Imagine the Wylie Coyote look he gets when he shows up just over the edge of a tall cliff and pokes around with his feet and can't find the ground.

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