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Something Occured to Me as to Why the Senior Council is so Afraid of Harry

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morriswalters:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on January 31, 2021, 09:11:36 PM ---There's also a good one about what he's learned from Lea as his godmother. I can't remember if it was from SK or CD. If it was SK, it's when he first talks to the Summer Lady in the rooftop garden. If it's CD, it's when he talks to another Summer Lady in another garden.

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You should link, I get confused by all the Gardens.
--- Quote from: groinkick on February 01, 2021, 01:17:47 AM ---Which Microfiction was that from?  Was that from Eb's journal?

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One of these I think.
    “Christmas Eve”
    “Mike”
    “Journal”
    “Goodbye”
    “Job Placement”
    “Everything the Light Touches”
    “The Good People”

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on February 01, 2021, 02:07:31 AM ---You should link, I get confused by all the Gardens.One of these I think.

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Apparently I do too. That's probably why I can't remember which one it was.

@groinkick: It's one of the microfictions you can find on Jim's website. You really should read them. They're quick and easy. Telling you anymore about that story is super spoilery and it only takes a about 4 minutes to read.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on January 30, 2021, 02:39:15 PM ---There is no doubt that Harry was programed as a weapon of some type.  It's explicit in the text. First in Summer Knight.Then again in Ghost Story.And last in the microfiction JournalIf you want to do lasting mental damage to a child, Jim's treatment of young Harry is exactly how you would go about it. What I'm suggesting is that the destroyer in the microfiction is a Norse being called a berserker. this has nothing to do with if  Harry is good or evil. It speaks specifically to the question, why is the Council so afraid of Harry.

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According to Eb in peace talks Vadderung employs many berserkers. I think they are something different in the dresdenverse.

morriswalters:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on February 01, 2021, 02:47:59 AM ---Apparently I do too. That's probably why I can't remember which one it was.

@groinkick: It's one of the microfictions you can find on Jim's website. You really should read them. They're quick and easy. Telling you anymore about that story is super spoilery and it only takes a about 4 minutes to read.

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This?
--- Quote ---Aurora turned her lovely face fully toward me and regarded me with deep, quiet eyes. "Yes." Unease gnawed at my belly as she continued. "The strong conquer and the weak are conquered. That is Winter. That is what you have learned." She leaned closer and said, quietly emphatic, "That is what makes you dangerous. Do you see?"
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--- Quote from: Arjan on February 01, 2021, 03:03:37 AM ---According to Eb in peace talks Vadderung employs many berserkers. I think they are something different in the dresdenverse.
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I have no idea at this point.  Freaking out and maiming your friends seem to be a-okay and perfectly normal. And if you have remorse that it makes everything fine. As a fictional world view that leaves me a little cold.  If it isn't going to resolve into to some type of redemption arc then it would seem to be merely torture porn. I don't need that.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on February 01, 2021, 03:34:15 AM ---This?I have no idea at this point.  Freaking out and maiming your friends seem to be a-okay and perfectly normal. And if you have remorse that it makes everything fine. As a fictional world view that leaves me a little cold.  If it isn't going to resolve into to some type of redemption arc then it would seem to be merely torture porn. I don't need that.

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In the earliest sources berserkers just seem to be the champions and bodyguards of kings, later witters ran away with it to start with early medieval christian writers. Jim has a lot of freedom to interpret what berserkers are in his universe.

From what I have read in Icelandic sagas such behavior would not be just accepted and without consequences and it was never described as ok.

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