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BG ENDING SPOILERS: The Knights of the B*** and Defenders of Chicago

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toodeep:
I think it is clear that this obligation will extend to winter as long as he is their knight, so even if something does happen to him, winter would be on the hook to pay these debts - just look at the debts winter handled while he was "gone" like with the guard. 

I think this will extend is "power" through providing him with some authority/trust with the people of Chicago.  As his knights call in their debts it will become known that:
1.  He pays his debts
2.  He's around to help Chicago

Harry talked like he wanted to start an organization in Chicago, potentially of a scope to rival Marcone's.  He has the BFS, the paranet, and his knights to start with.  I think the maintaining of this connection with these people, these people who are willing to fight for Chicago and who have followed him before, is definitely him extending his authority and laying the groundwork for his new organization, including the debt a leader has to his followers...

Bad Alias:
Harry has a castle, retainers, Excalibur, and he started a order of knights. He's either paralleling Merlin or Arthur pretty hard with just that. You could stretch it with the Paranet and say he united a nation. That's much less of a stretch if (probably when) the Paranet becomes an Accorded Nation.

He's got a lot of additional Merlin parallels, so when he finally does give out Amoracchius, is that person going to be the new Arthur? (I'd say original is exceedingly unlikely because that would take the focus off Harry too much).

Additional Merlin parallels off the top of my head: (click to show/hide)Most obviously, he's a wizard
His Merlin legacy from Eb
Odin's mentorship
Warden of Demonreach
His record of besting the fae (though kinda small know, I expect this to grow)

KurtinStGeorge:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on December 17, 2020, 09:30:47 PM ---Harry has a castle, retainers, Excalibur, and he started a order of knights. He's either paralleling Merlin or Arthur pretty hard with just that. You could stretch it with the Paranet and say he united a nation. That's much less of a stretch if (probably when) the Paranet becomes an Accorded Nation.

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I think that's unlikely.  An accorded nation needs to be able to defend itself.  Many members of the Paranet have useful skills, but as far as we know there are only two fighters, Harry and Elaine; and Elaine wants to keep a low profile.  If Harry could get some (mostly sketchy) characters like Kinkaid or Goodman Grey to join, that would certainly help, but it probably wouldn't be enough.  Now if a few dozen disgruntled wizards; not sorcerers, became fed up with the White Council, and they had combat skills, then the Paranet would start to have potential to be what Bad Alias is talking about.

It's not an impossible idea but think about the broader implications.  The White Council leadership would be p*ssed.  They would see it as the beginning of a Black Council.  Who knows, maybe that will be how Harry will challenge the White Council, but at present it seems like a longshot to me.   

Snark Knight:
I don't think Mab would be pissed off at all if Winter ends up having to cover a few of Harry's promises of protection to the survivors. The banner was of Winter. They fought for her side. It's entirely proper to repay their actions - she'd probably be pissed if he failed to - and if her vassal is otherwise occupied on his duties, it's the liege's responsibility to cover the bargain as he would have.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on December 18, 2020, 01:30:02 AM ---I think that's unlikely.  An accorded nation needs to be able to defend itself.  Many members of the Paranet have useful skills, but as far as we know there are only two fighters, Harry and Elaine; and Elaine wants to keep a low profile.

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Jim was asked what the Paranet would need to do to become a member of the Accords. He said something about proving the could handle themselves and how it would take some chaotic events for them to have the opportunity. His answer indicated they would almost certainly have the opportunity.

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