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Arjan:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on December 17, 2020, 05:29:37 PM ---We get references to Norman Invasion left and right. There's the Hastings reference, the rode with the Conqueror one, and Jim's reference to Celtic mythology around 1066 about Mother Winter's walking stick.

To me it feels too obvious, but not explicit enough. Like Jim is tricking us. Then again, the Mac is an angel references were everywhere and kind of obvious too. If I had to bet money, I would put it on the Norman Invasion. But I'm not going to be shocked if it was all a misdirect.

I don't think Marcone is out. There's always a chance at redemption. That's the point of the Knights. I'd rather Harry has to fight him, though.

Maybe Harry will be the one to take up Amoracchius? The whole series is about him struggling against temptation and his inner darkness. It's all about his redemption.
I missed his hatred of the Forest People. I do recall the Beowulf part, but I thought that was just about Blood on His Soul's people (the Genoskwa or warpath).

Basically that whole conversation: (click to show/hide) “Einherjaren here, too. That’s always trouble.”

“How come?” I asked.

He scrunched up his nose, enormous brows beetling. “My people follow three paths,” he said. He gestured at himself. “Sky path, like me. We learn. We remember. Watch the stars. Read. Talk to you people, mostly on the rez. Think about things.” He sighed. “There’s not too many of us.”

I frowned and said, “You’re like wizards are to humans.”

He shrugged. “Not entirely the wrong way to see it. Why you and me get on pretty good, probably.”

“I’ll buy that. Okay.”

“Second path is the forest path. That’s most of us, maybe nine in ten. Forest path thinks that humans are good example of what not to do. That we should stay close to nature. Avoid contact. Fire. Tools. All that. Stay quiet and unseen mostly and live in harmony with the natural world.”

“And humans see them once in a while,” I said.

River nodded. “Though me and the guys on the rez watch those shows about you looking for them. Pretty darned funny. Little bit sad.”

I tilted my head and made a guess. “The Genoskwa. He’s on the third path.”

“War path,” River agreed. “He thinks our people are the first people. Thinks we should kill most of you. Make the rest into cattle and slaves.” He mused for a moment. “They’re assholes,” he said frankly. “Kind of stupid. But there’s not too many of them, either, so they can’t get what they want. Settle for hanging around national parks, making people disappear once in a while, when the sky path don’t stop them.”

“And the first Grendel was on the war path?”

River nodded. “Taught his tribe. They had numbers enough to make a go of it, back then. The other paths left them to their madness, walked over the ice, joined our people here. Grendel’s people drove the humans from some places. Humans were tied to their lands, their crops. Not much they could do about it.”

“What happened?”

“They picked a fight with the wrong humans,” River Shoulders said. “Vikings. Vikings had a champion. A teacher.”

“Beowulf?” I asked.

“Beowulf. Vadderung. He got a lot of names and faces.” River Shoulders nodded. “Lived and fought like a mortal. Showed them how to have courage. Helped build a warrior culture. Fight the giants. Some of his people even came across the sea, found us, and didn’t waste any time on talk. But there were too many of us here, and they left.”

“So what was with confronting that guy before he brought us up here?”

River Shoulders shook his head. “Lot of the Einherjaren got to Valhalla fighting my people on the war path. They remember.”

“So, the Genoskwa . . .”

“Our word for the war path,”
I don't really buy the Gatekeeper thing either. Just thought it amusing and ridiculous, but still entirely possible.
That is how debts to faerie queens works.

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There was no hatred mentioned to the forest people in general on Odin’s part. The only thing mentioned was that many einherjaren had fought against the war path and would have strong reactions against any forest people but it never got to fighting in battle ground and I think that is a good sign. Vadderung and ferrofax do not like each other but they can handle it.

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