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New Dresden Files podcast interview.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Dina on December 14, 2020, 08:36:30 PM ---But faeries are different, their deals are stricter and by the letter.
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Sure but what letters? If anything is open for interpretation Mab will abuse it.
The relation between the queens and the knight is subject to winter law. Harry does not have the natural understanding of winter law the rest of fairy has. He does not know what Mab's obligations to him are, he did not knew about christmas presents for example.
Dina:
Yes, he does not know, but that is not an excuse for Mab to break a deal. So, it can happen, even without Harry realizing it until later.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Dina on December 14, 2020, 05:25:53 AM ---Yes, but remember what Harry did in BG. He bounded Molly because he said that he has done more than what his office demanded him. Harry did not realize it yet but one day he will do Mab a favor (without being ordered to) so important, that she will have to awknowledge it. And at that point, the deal will be finished and Harry's will be free of fae influence.
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The deal wasn't for Harry to do Mab three favors. It was for him to fulfill three requests. If Jim is paying attention to what he said in SK, an order is not a request and neither is an unrequested favor.
--- Quote from: vincentric on December 14, 2020, 06:06:57 AM ---The deal that started with a debt to Lea may well be finished that way but his oath as Winter Knight isn't part of that deal.
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--- Quote ---When you have fulfilled three requests, your obligation to me ceases.
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Obligation is only defined by context. We've been warned that context doesn't matter when dealing with the Sidhe. I'm not saying that it will go down this way. I'm saying that if Mab makes a request of Harry, then by the rules laid out in the books, his obligation to Mab ceases. Whatever obligation Harry has to her.
--- Quote from: forumghost on December 14, 2020, 07:10:27 PM ---Any future Bargains would be on their own terms. Like, if someone owes you $20 and you say "You pay for lunch next time and we're square", and then they borrow another $5000 for a car lone 6 years down the track, they can't just finally buy you that Pizza and be like "So, we're good on that 5k right?"
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There's a reason contracts say that they supersede any previous agreements. Also, Jim has said that Harry still owes Mab the last request. The deal is still valid. The question isn't if the deal is still in place. It is what does "obligation to Mab" mean. Being Winter Knight is all about obligations to Mab. (Also the other two Queens).
Dina:
I may be wrong, but I think Mab said "obligations with faeries". I understand she can't talk about Summer but I think she is talking about all Winter.
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on December 17, 2020, 04:57:25 PM ---The deal wasn't for Harry to do Mab three favors. It was for him to fulfill three requests. If Jim is paying attention to what he said in SK, an order is not a request and neither is an unrequested favor.
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Really? I thought it said "favors".
bigdangmoose:
Anybody catch Mike's book review interview? I watched that and I caught a couple thoughts that I found interesting. I start off by throwing this out there.
Jim thinks of Mab as a villain - Sounds like he doesn't share the same ideas about her that some readers do that she's really a good guy doing bad things to keep reality safe.
The wedding may not happen - In TM we will follow Harry over the year, seeing his dates with Lara, but if they really make it down the aisle sounds like it's up in the air.
And, because I do like the Harry/Molly pairing, I'm putting this in. Someone asked about a relationship between Harry and Molly. Jim sounded like he wants people to realize that it very well may happen, just right now isn't a good thing or time for it to happen.
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