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bigdangmoose:
--- Quote from: vincentric on December 13, 2020, 04:32:03 PM ---If TM ends before the wedding with the MM twist then the end of MM will have to resolve it or drag it out in another book. If it ends after the wedding then Harry will still be married after his return from MM. Changes was a cliffhanger ending. But GS resolved it at the end because we only needed to see what happened to Harry. For MM to affect the wedding we'd have to follow what occurs in both universes through both Harry's and mirror Harry's POV's. So that would make it two books in one. Not saying Jim won't do it but it would be a big departure from the format we've grown used to.
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Why would we follow both Harry and MMHarry and follow both worlds? MMHarry isn't going to Harry's world. And if it happened before the wedding, all it would do is postpone it to a later date. This isn't like he jumps to a different place, spends some time there, and then comes back to the exact moment he left.it would just make the wedding at a different time, more time for it possibly not to happen.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on December 13, 2020, 09:11:21 AM ---Not that getting rid of that favour would matter too much except in the sense that being rid of it would make it easier to slip out of being WK without Mab having either easy revenge or one last giant mess to chuck him into.
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If Jim remembers the deal Harry made in SK, using the favor should release Harry from being Mab's knight. Remember, context doesn't matter for faerie deals.
--- Quote ---"Three tasks," Mab murmured, holding up three fingers by way of visual aid. "From time to time, I will make a request of you. When you have fulfilled three requests, your obligation to me ceases."
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It could be argued that Jim's already forgotten the deal, depending on your definition of requests. Requests and commands could be considered two distinct things.
So if Mab makes a request and Harry fulfills it, does he cease to be the Winter Knight, or does he just cease to work for Mab?
Dina:
The problem is define what a favor is, but if Harry makes her a favor he will be free of obligations to the faeries. I think he would have the power of the WK but without any obligations. That would make Winter significantly weaker, so Mab would ask Harry to make a new deal, creating a delicious irony. The deal would probably involve Harry giving back the mantle in exchange to full healing of all his injuries, something about Maggie's future that I don't care about and a sort of immunity from Winter, like they can't touch him or something.
vincentric:
The previous deal is has been superseded. Harry owed a debt that he had to pay by doing three tasks. Mab didn't owe him and him paying his debt wouldn't earn a favor, just free him.
Mab no longer needs to make requests of Harry. He is the Winter Knight now and bound to follow her orders. The deal he made in Changes was for power, time to rescue Maggie and to never be asked to hurt his loved ones. Mab doesn't ask things of Harry that she knows will cause an actual rebellion but she doesn't owe him anything more.
It might be possible for him to collect some of Mab's debts to others but I shudder to think what he'd have to do to get one large enough to escape being Winter Knight.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: vincentric on December 14, 2020, 01:40:16 AM ---The previous deal is has been superseded. ...
Mab no longer needs to make requests of Harry.
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Disagree with the first; agree with the second.
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