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Snark Knight:
Well, Jim said the pilot of the first show - adapting SF in a two-parter - was the most faithful adaptation the first series did. Realistically, this is only going to stand a chance of happening if they can map multiple books to a season.

A streaming platform were the lengths aren't really fixed has more flexibility than a network show, though. That would be ideal, because they can cover some of the more important shorts too.

Griffyn612:
I've always liked the idea of a Dresden anime from the artists that did Darker Than Black.

Yuillegan:

--- Quote from: Walter the skull on December 01, 2020, 05:13:31 PM ---Also CGI has gotten a lot better, faster to make, and probably cheaper in the 13 years since the first Dresden show.  I think one of the things Jim said about doing animated Dresden is that it would allow for some really epic battles and things that would be too costly for live action.  At least some of those epic battles may now be within reach for a live action show.

What I'm getting at is if you count CGI as a type of animation, the line between animated and live action has been blurring for a long time.  Hell we're having 3D models of dead actors being wrapped around people with similar physical proportions and having other people voice those characters.  That's similar to something animated.     

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I get you, worth a google on those shows I mentioned if you're interested in the art work. Particularly Beyond the Aquila Rift and Sonnie's Edge in the anthology Love, Death and Robots - very much the CGI, game animation on those. Sonnie's Edge has an almost Cyberpunk 2077 vibe. But they are definitely more expensive than regular anime/cartoon style.


--- Quote from: Bad Alias on December 01, 2020, 06:55:20 PM ---I do prefer the non-cartoonish animation. I think the DF would work really well if done like Castelvania, but a bit more realistic with some of the settings, weapons, and such. A lot of that animation, the weapons, clothing, and setting is just ludicrous. Another advantage to an animated series is you can have characters age at the right rates. The immortals don't age, Harry ages slower, and regular mortals age regularly.

The problem with animation is that a lot of people will never take it seriously.

I don't know if doing it as an animated series would be a problem or a benefit on the business side of doing a series that covers 25 novels. I wouldn't be surprised if we never get a full Dresden Files series adaptation. Has anything that big ever been attempted? Some quick googling puts A Song of Ice and Fire at 1,770,000 words and DF at 1,997,201 words as of SG. Not counting PT, BG, or any short stories. And we're still about eight novels from being done. Three of those novels are supposed to be big door stopping tomes. Conservatively, that is going to be over three million words.

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Agreed. Yeah both Castlevania and Blood of Zeus have their issues. But it fits some of the wackiness of the Dresden Files. And it does solve the issues around actors growing up and supernatural effects. But you are right, some people will never take it seriously. Which is why you have to look to successful cult anime series - One Piece, Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Marvel's Avenger's Assemble, Death Note, Avatar (both the Last Airbender and Legend of Korra) etc.

It can be done. Just have to get the right audience and either target a large enough existing audience or have a realistic idea of how many fans + new watchers would be interested. Plus sticking to what makes the Dresden Files good rather than random, useless changes that ruin it for both fans and new comers alike. It's a hard balance - most books don't adapt easily to the screen, and even when you do it's a constant battle. I also see it as an opportunity for Jim to correct some of his earlier errors and maybe even to restart the series a little earlier than Storm Front - something he said he would like to have done if he could do it again. He could also add in the novelas and short stories too. With the right team and the right planning and an appropriate budget, it could be great. I am sure it would be easier to do such a long series as an animation than live-action. The cost savings alone...


--- Quote from: Snark Knight on December 01, 2020, 09:07:59 PM ---Urban detective fantasy is probably more conducive to quick pacing than epic political / military fantasy. An average Dresden book would probably translate to 2-3 TV episodes, rather than roughly 1 book per season like GOT was doing before it went off the rails. You could probably adapt SF-GP in a season, pretty much regardless of live or animated format.

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Agreed, SF to GP is about right in either format. 1-2 books an episode would only work in the first series I suspect. After Dead Beat you'd miss too much.


--- Quote from: Snark Knight on December 02, 2020, 12:36:30 AM ---Well, Jim said the pilot of the first show - adapting SF in a two-parter - was the most faithful adaptation the first series did. Realistically, this is only going to stand a chance of happening if they can map multiple books to a season.

A streaming platform were the lengths aren't really fixed has more flexibility than a network show, though. That would be ideal, because they can cover some of the more important shorts too.

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Indeed, you'd have to do multiple books in a season. But season length can be played around with. Netflix or another big streaming service would be ideal regardless of the format.


--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on December 02, 2020, 03:02:46 AM ---I've always liked the idea of a Dresden anime from the artists that did Darker Than Black.






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Definitely could work and would probably appeal more to the current anime market. Would have to be updated I think a little, but it's got a good tone.

Mira:


I got introduced to the Dresden Files through the original series, which at the time I loved and was shocked when it was canceled.  I love the books even more, I went back and binge watched the show recently, and yes, the show had totally gone off the rails after the pilot, "Storm Front."  The question is why? The books are not so far "out there" that they couldn't be adapted for the small screen.  The special effects weren't all that elaborate either.  Jim must not have realized how much they'd mess with his characters and story line adapting it for television.  The one change they did do, that I loved was the character of Bob, but that might have been because of the actor as for any other reason. 

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: Yuillegan on December 02, 2020, 03:19:26 AM ---Definitely could work and would probably appeal more to the current anime market. Would have to be updated I think a little, but it's got a good tone.

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Yeah, it premiered 13+ years ago, so I'm sure they could update some things for the better but keep the dark tone.  I just don't know that something 3d would be necessary for Dresden, like Clone Wars or Rebels, and I don't like the cartoon animation of other shows like Resistance. (I'm not that familiar with modern anime, so my cartoon exposure is pretty limited to star wars these days)

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