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A thought About Butters
Arjan:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on November 27, 2020, 05:09:07 AM ---The king stuff seems to have been a red herring in the end.
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Or he made it a red herring because the idea was not as good as he first thought. ;D
There is a lot wrong with that idea if you believe in democracy and human rights and so on.
Wicked Woodpecker of West:
--- Quote ---But te claim matters. If they make enough people believe it it will have a power of its own. And maybe it is even true. In the Dresden verse.
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But knights do not operate on claims. They all have king's blood but not kingly claims.
Remnants of king's spiritual power is good for knights in some way.
--- Quote ---Or he made it a red herring because the idea was not as good as he first thought. ;D
There is a lot wrong with that idea if you believe in democracy and human rights and so on.
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You can believe in democracy and human rights and still accept such power brings certain spiritual power with itself.
One can say entire Dresden Files premise is very anti-egalitarian with wizards being rare born superheroes for instance.
But I think problem is more with lack of clear rules - like what constitutes for a king in a first place. Was let's say Joseph Stalin a king?
If king is wicked and exploits people shall he leaves proper spiritual aura in his blood descendants and so on...
And also as Jim notices - descendants of kings are half of mankind these days.
I mean 10% of all Irishmen are descendants in direct male line (so count all the female lineages) of one man living about 1500 years ago presumed to be king Neill of Nine Hostages. Which makes all thing bit redundant.
You know I have less problem with this idea as a Christian - I mean Jesus itself was born on purpose in side depowered lineage of David dynasty on his human side, so it is within our symbolic rules. I have more problem that basically each time you can get intel about it. Dresden got like king lineage to all three original Knights, even though neither belongs to even side nobility at these point. I call bollocks on this research :P
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on November 27, 2020, 05:09:07 AM ---The king stuff seems to have been a red herring in the end.
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It might be a setup for how the swords work the way they do.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on November 27, 2020, 04:40:16 PM ---But knights do not operate on claims. They all have king's blood but not kingly claims.
Remnants of king's spiritual power is good for knights in some way.
You can believe in democracy and human rights and still accept such power brings certain spiritual power with itself.
One can say entire Dresden Files premise is very anti-egalitarian with wizards being rare born superheroes for instance.
But I think problem is more with lack of clear rules - like what constitutes for a king in a first place. Was let's say Joseph Stalin a king?
If king is wicked and exploits people shall he leaves proper spiritual aura in his blood descendants and so on...
And also as Jim notices - descendants of kings are half of mankind these days.
I mean 10% of all Irishmen are descendants in direct male line (so count all the female lineages) of one man living about 1500 years ago presumed to be king Neill of Nine Hostages. Which makes all thing bit redundant.
You know I have less problem with this idea as a Christian - I mean Jesus itself was born on purpose in side depowered lineage of David dynasty on his human side, so it is within our symbolic rules. I have more problem that basically each time you can get intel about it. Dresden got like king lineage to all three original Knights, even though neither belongs to even side nobility at these point. I call bollocks on this research :P
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The point is these stories were invented with a purpose. Legitimizing the absolute rule of the king. Making rejecting that rule not just a crime against the state but one against god himself. They did not have the technology and the organization but this is the legitimation, the underpinning of totalitarian rule, of the absolute monarchy.
morriswalters:
Jim read Le Morte d'Arthur and got hot and bothered about the mythology of the Round Table and the Sword. He role plays in armor and asked his present wife to marry him in his full regalia. He has an awful lot of hanging plot points and a diminishing amount of time to clear them up. This is one of them.
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