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Griffyn612:
Drawing comparisons. Others have said these before, but I wanted to list them to try to spur new lines of thought.

Swords of the Cross

* Faith
* Hope
* Love
White Court Houses

* Fear
* Despair
* Lust
Walkers

* Behind
* “Neither fear nor pain sway you..."
* My head was full of pain and fear.
* Before
* I could feel a horrible, hopeless weight...
* The psychic assault of despair that Sharkface had sent into my head evaporated...
* Beside - Doesn't seem to use lust. Uses desire or twisted love to seduce and corrupt?
* Twists a man's love of family into ambition (per Lily).
* Twists Denton's love of law and order into rage.
* Twists Aurora's love of life into a murderous plot to spare lives.
* Twists Maeve's love of her mother into spite.
* Twists Justine and Thomas's love into a reason to betray and kill.

Wicked Woodpecker of West:
Well I'm kinda all for White Court being agenda of Outsiders, so count me in.

The_Sibelis:
Not really a new thought, but I've been thinking that stars and stones refers to mortals becoming new versions of old deity (angelic to be precise) like how heros of old were supposed to go into the stars.. and those three, are the primary ones(though I believe there are five actually, from the scene in Changes when Harry becomes WK, five stars like a necklace on mother night) the reference of hate and love being the same force in opposite directions was a good example. (which I believe behind is hatred, not pain or fear. He projected hatred and self loathing in GS, it's the core of his essence) nemesis I think is something else, or something MORE maybe, still expect a 4th walker to show up... Though nemesis might qualify as despair instead. That's a thread most of her infected seem to share as well in the above list. They hit the end of the road on doubt and lost it. I've noticed the renditions of some deity also reflect the same traits. Molly becoming WL after being trained to use fear as a weapon for instance..
The swords and the walkers share a connection for sure though... It could be as simple as them being missing aspects of them. If love and hatred are the same force then the sword of love is missing part of what it should be. That part is manifesting with the walkers. Perhaps that aspect was literally killed off somehow and now they're trying to return. They seek to create/return to balance. The denarians are actually a false balance. They're there to take up the space nemesis tries to occupy. Beside repeating the same line as Nic does not surprise me. Nic is probably one of the only ones who know what the score really is on what the denarians do. They create mini apocalypti to prevent a build up in one spot.
Im starting to loose the thread right now so I'll cut myself off here and ramble on more later lol.

Wicked Woodpecker of West:
TBH Stars and Stones for me points to something a'la Stonehenge.

Astrology, druidism, human sacrifice.


--- Quote ---It could be as simple as them being missing aspects of them. If love and hatred are the same force then the sword of love is missing part of what it should be.
--- End quote ---

It's not really. Love as a Virtue is different force than love as part of emotional spectrum - that can be used by titans, wizards, fae to empower their spells. They coincide - but ultimately are not the same.

The_Sibelis:

--- Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on November 24, 2020, 02:53:18 PM ---It's not really. Love as a Virtue is different force than love as part of emotional spectrum - that can be used by titans, wizards, fae to empower their spells. They coincide - but ultimately are not the same.

--- End quote ---
in the DF virtue and emotion are not mutually exclusive. They're the same thing in the DF, don't like it, argue with Jim on that one, not me..

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