The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Twelve months (speculation)
Dina:
I agree about Mab and Titania, that is very important.
I also think that as soon as I have the time I will do a full reread of the series (I have not even finishing rereading BG yet, though).
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on November 22, 2020, 02:51:11 AM ---I like this idea and would like to add something else. Aside from Harry's personal issues there have been; I'm not certain what the literary term is, if there is one, for ideas and mysteries which not only haven't been explained, they haven't been addressed in any way at all. I'd like to see at least some clues which may point the way to their eventual resolution. "Who fixed Little Chicago?" is the mystery most fans think about first, but I doubt that it's really very important in the grand scheme of things. I suspect the final solution to that mystery will be more fun than important. A more interesting and perhaps significant mystery is what was really going on between Mab and Titania during the events of Small Favor?
Harry and the readers know something was going on, but no idea what that something was. The reason it may be important is that novel is when Harry first set foot on Demonreach Island, though he didn't name it at the time. Would Harry have ever set foot on that island if Nicodemus and company hadn't taken the Archive and Marcone there? What got me thinking about this was the short scene between Mab and Titania in Battle Ground, where Mab said something about doing one's duty, to which Titania replied, "When have I not done so?" (I can't find her exact words at the moment.) This got me thinking that just because Summer and Winter appear to be opposites, there are times when they aren't necessarily working against each other, even when they appear to be doing exactly that. Maybe the whole point of Marcone's kidnapping was to introduce Harry to the Island. Yes, I know Nicodemus chose that island, or maybe he didn't. Maybe; like in Skin Game, Nic was manipulated into making a choice that he thought was his own but was set up for him. Anyway, it's about time we start to get some clues to the deeper game Mab and Titania have been playing.
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Along with other questions like what happened to the first overt response to the hellfire circle (soulfire was the subtle one) and where did Winter choose to send their guys in response to the Kelpies being called in (and how was EG not there if they knew enough to ambush Harry).
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on November 22, 2020, 02:51:11 AM ---I like this idea and would like to add something else. Aside from Harry's personal issues there have been; I'm not certain what the literary term is, if there is one, for ideas and mysteries which not only haven't been explained, they haven't been addressed in any way at all. I'd like to see at least some clues which may point the way to their eventual resolution. "Who fixed Little Chicago?" is the mystery most fans think about first, but I doubt that it's really very important in the grand scheme of things. I suspect the final solution to that mystery will be more fun than important. A more interesting and perhaps significant mystery is what was really going on between Mab and Titania during the events of Small Favor?
Harry and the readers know something was going on, but no idea what that something was. The reason it may be important is that novel is when Harry first set foot on Demonreach Island, though he didn't name it at the time. Would Harry have ever set foot on that island if Nicodemus and company hadn't taken the Archive and Marcone there? What got me thinking about this was the short scene between Mab and Titania in Battle Ground, where Mab said something about doing one's duty, to which Titania replied, "When have I not done so?" (I can't find her exact words at the moment.) This got me thinking that just because Summer and Winter appear to be opposites, there are times when they aren't necessarily working against each other, even when they appear to be doing exactly that. Maybe the whole point of Marcone's kidnapping was to introduce Harry to the Island. Yes, I know Nicodemus chose that island, or maybe he didn't. Maybe; like in Skin Game, Nic was manipulated into making a choice that he thought was his own but was set up for him. Anyway, it's about time we start to get some clues to the deeper game Mab and Titania have been playing.
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--- Quote ---“The rain was a kind touch,” Mab said finally. “There were a number of fires it checked.” “You understand what has happened,” Titania replied quietly. “What it means.” “I expect you to do your duty,” Mab said. Titania’s expression flickered in pain. “When have I not?” Mab nodded. Titania matched the gesture. Then a warm southern wind blew a curtain of gentle rain around her and the Summer unicorn, and when it faded they were gone.
Butcher, Jim. Battle Ground (Dresden Files) (pp. 351-352). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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Here is the quote you were looking for. I don't believe what happened in Small Favor is much of a mystery. With the exception of who fixed LC, the mysteries of the books prior to Cold Days are mostly resolved. If your interested in my thinking on this look under the spoiler. (click to show/hide)Titania gets her grudge on in Summer Knight. Marcone acts against fate during Harry's escape from the alley in Dead Beat and has hired Monoc Security. One of the Queens alternate masks are the Fates. Uriel is moving and Titania plants the Oak Leaf on both Harry and Morgan in Proven Guilty. The island may have been foreshadowed in White Knight as the location of the cabin when the Water Beetle is introduced. It is at this point that Marcone makes himself vulnerable to Titania by becoming a member of the accords. Titania can only attack Harry if he is acting as Winters Emissary. She now takes her revenge on Marcone and Harry. Point. If Nic had been acting on Titania's aegis he wouldn't have been forced from the Accords. Say instead that she took advantage of Nic's plan and agreed to act as his Emissary.
Mira:
I cannot remember if it was Rashid or Mother Summer who explained to Harry about the Gates, their purpose, and who are guarding them at the moment. What I remember is it is all about balance. At the moment it is the Winter Court who mainly guards the Gates and battles would be intruders. This makes them very strong and dangerous if Mab or Mother Winter abused that power. Thus it is the Summer Court's duty to keep the Winter Court from going beyond their resume description for keeping the Gates safe. So they may seem at odds, but in truth they are really not, as we saw in Battle Ground, they can and do cooperate against a common enemy. That is why Aurora had to go, infected as she undoubtedly was, her aim to create an unbalance, triggering a war between the Courts and leaving the Gates vulnerable to the Enemy.
Dina:
--- Quote from: Mira on November 22, 2020, 05:31:20 PM ---I cannot remember if it was Rashid or Mother Summer who explained to Harry about the Gates, their purpose, and who are guarding them at the moment. What I remember is it is all about balance. At the moment it is the Winter Court who mainly guards the Gates and battles would be intruders. This makes them very strong and dangerous if Mab or Mother Winter abused that power. Thus it is the Summer Court's duty to keep the Winter Court from going beyond their resume description for keeping the Gates safe. So they may seem at odds, but in truth they are really not, as we saw in Battle Ground, they can and do cooperate against a common enemy. That is why Aurora had to go, infected as she undoubtedly was, her aim to create an unbalance, triggering a war between the Courts and leaving the Gates vulnerable to the Enemy.
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Yes, this.
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