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Marcone's Power Base
Mira:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on November 17, 2020, 04:41:37 PM ---Honestly, the whole Denton thing in Fool Moon might support this. He talks about how he's had "too many years of seeing men like Marcone laugh at the law." Murphy knows of him and knows him quasi-well enough to know he "is an asshole, but he does his job".
Could Denton have been more than just a local Feeb that got twisted by the belts? Could he have been a liaison between the FBI and Marcone? We know Marcone went from street level enforcer to mob boss pretty quickly. It wouldn't be that surprising if the feds backed him a little in order to stabilize the mob scene in Chicago, with caveats about who Marcone would sell to.
It would certainly explain why Denton was chosen. Let's face it, for the belt-gifter to know someone in the FBI that's close enough to being pushed over and willing to target Marcone seems like a stretch without Nemesis or someone having insight into the people. But if Denton was targeted because he worked with Marcone, and a natural resentment was stoked, then it would make sense.
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I won't say say your wrong, but when Harry comes on the first murder scene one of the Marcone's body guards. We know that belted Denton and his buds were responsible for that to pin it on MacFinn. The F.B.I. were brought in to investigate the "lobo murders." So it could have been just a coincidence. MacFinn seemed to be the real target.
Con:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on November 17, 2020, 04:41:37 PM ---Honestly, the whole Denton thing in Fool Moon might support this. He talks about how he's had "too many years of seeing men like Marcone laugh at the law." Murphy knows of him and knows him quasi-well enough to know he "is an asshole, but he does his job".
Could Denton have been more than just a local Feeb that got twisted by the belts? Could he have been a liaison between the FBI and Marcone? We know Marcone went from street level enforcer to mob boss pretty quickly. It wouldn't be that surprising if the feds backed him a little in order to stabilize the mob scene in Chicago, with caveats about who Marcone would sell to.
It would certainly explain why Denton was chosen. Let's face it, for the belt-gifter to know someone in the FBI that's close enough to being pushed over and willing to target Marcone seems like a stretch without Nemesis or someone having insight into the people. But if Denton was targeted because he worked with Marcone, and a natural resentment was stoked, then it would make sense.
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I like this take on it. Throughout the series it's constantly referenced that the cops are reluctant at best to go after Marcone because of the stability he brings and the protection of kids.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Con on November 17, 2020, 08:40:38 PM ---I like this take on it. Throughout the series it's constantly referenced that the cops are reluctant at best to go after Marcone because of the stability he brings and the protection of kids.
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Which goes back to whether or not Marcone is really behind the push by Rudolph to go after Harry and Murphy.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Mira on November 17, 2020, 07:10:21 PM ---I won't say say your wrong, but when Harry comes on the first murder scene one of the Marcone's body guards. We know that belted Denton and his buds were responsible for that to pin it on MacFinn. The F.B.I. were brought in to investigate the "lobo murders." So it could have been just a coincidence. MacFinn seemed to be the real target.
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Sure. But the Lobo murders started with some street thugs, a woman, and some more randos, before hitting Marcone's business man and then his bodyguard. Denton & Co. were killing people, and then got themselves attached to the case as soon as it came in. That all makes sense with what the story said.
But Marcone was the target. Denton admitted as much when he said he was tired of Marcone & Co. getting away with stuff. Someone gave him the belts, and told him about MacFinn, and told him about the supernatural community. Denton's plan was to build a scapegoat for both the FBI (it's a bad deal with MacFinn the business man!) and the magical community (it's MacFinn the werewolf!) and Marcone would be dead and no-one would need to look into anything more.
If all the casefiles are as similar as we suspect, then Beltboy picking a random person like Denton to sick on Marcone doesn't make a whole lot of sense. The Nemesis method is to get people that are close to the target to turn. Lea to get Mab. Aurora to kill the Summer Knight and cause chaos. Kravos to get revenge on Harry. Vitto to get Lara. Madeline to get Lara. The plot always seems to be to use their pre-existing issues to facilitate their fall.
So it would make sense that Beltboy approached someone that knew Marcone and already had hang-ups about him. And from what we've seen of Marcone, do we really think he's going to let a random squad of FBI agents onto his property in some crazy attempt to save his life from werewolves? It seems much more likely that Marcone would thank him for the tip and tell him he'd handle it on his own. But if he had prior knowledge and dealings with Denton, then maybe thought he'd taken the measure of the man?
Mira:
I think it was Cowl who gave Denton the belts. In the soul gaze Harry saw Denton kneeling before a robed figure to receive them. Now the corruption/power may have motivated Denton to go after Marcone. However I don't think that is why he was given the belts in the first place. It is too tied up with sabotaging MacFinn, Denton was also warned by somebody about the White Council when he and his men started killing people under the influence of the belt.
Think, how would Denton know about the belts to begin with? Who got to him in the first place? Just to target Marcone? I don't think so..
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