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[BG spoilers!!] Revisiting the short story "Monsters"
Dina:
I have made a post about this in another thread, but as apparently nobody read it I decided to do a new one. As the title says, I've reread Monsters after reading BG-
Viti says that Marcone is bad, is dangerous and he can kill Grey. I think now we know she was not talking about what we thought before, vanilla man doing extraordinary things but Denarian. And I found that very interesting. Also, apparently Grey cannot detect the Fallen in him
Oh, and just a comment. It is relatively easy to make the decision of saving children. As others stated here before, it's not such a great moral thing. I believe the interesting part is that while Grey or Marcone would probably go to some extremes to save children, Harry would probably go to great extremes to save any of them (Marcone and Grey, I mean). And I think in his inner heart Grey wants to be that sort of person, and he is trying. As always, Harry is probably going to influence him to go to that side. Marcone, on the other hand, seems to have decided to go the dark side. But, as I said before, I still see hope of redemption for him. And I still think Marcone himself hopes that, if he ever goes truly, truly dark, Harry will stop him.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Dina on November 15, 2020, 05:26:45 AM ---I have made a post about this in another thread, but as apparently nobody read it I decided to do a new one. As the title says, I've reread Monsters after reading BG-
Viti says that Marcone is bad, is dangerous and he can kill Grey. I think now we know she was not talking about what we thought before, vanilla man doing extraordinary things but Denarian. And I found that very interesting. Also, apparently Grey cannot detect the Fallen in him
Oh, and just a comment. It is relatively easy to make the decision of saving children. As others stated here before, it's not such a great moral thing. I believe the interesting part is that while Grey or Marcone would probably go to some extremes to save children, Harry would probably go to great extremes to save any of them (Marcone and Grey, I mean). And I think in his inner heart Grey wants to be that sort of person, and he is trying. As always, Harry is probably going to influence him to go to that side. Marcone, on the other hand, seems to have decided to go the dark side. But, as I said before, I still see hope of redemption for him.
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You have the right mentality. You get the sword.
--- Quote ---And I still think Marcone himself hopes that, if he ever goes truly, truly dark, Harry will stop him.
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Grey is trying to rise, Marcone is falling even further. Namshiel will take care of that, he chose that coin willingly and knowingly. That is quite different from Sanya.
Conspiracy Theorist:
Yes, Grey is trying to be a better being, Marcone is trying to be a better Marcone.
TheCuriousFan:
Of course to keep up the parallels (like them losing their moral pillars in the same book) Marcone will probably make a slightly upward climb around the same time Harry does unless Jim plans for them to diverge and have that showdown.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Arjan on November 15, 2020, 08:38:01 AM ---Grey is trying to rise, Marcone is falling even further. Namshiel will take care of that, he chose that coin willingly and knowingly.
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I'm not really convinced all the Fallen are equally interested in corrupting the souls of their carriers. I think that may be more of a side objective to what the significant players among them are really doing, of varying interest to various Fallen, and the Church has mistaken that for their main purpose.
Now, I'm sure carrying Namshiel for a truly long time would make Marcone even darker. But, realistically, he's already pretty bad. It could take Namshiel decades or centuries to get him to bend on 'no children', if he ever does. I think he's up to something more important than long-gaming a bad man into a worse one, and that something probably takes priority over changing Marcone unless he can get two birds with one stone.
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