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Nemesis [BG SPOILERS]
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on November 14, 2020, 03:39:35 AM ---So if Nemesis is from the Greek Pantheon, what would that mean exactly? That part; or a single member, of that pantheon was tainted in some unknown way and was cast out of this reality and then spawned the rest of the Outsiders, or took them over if they were already an existing entity in their own universe, and now wants back in with what are either her children or new friends?
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I think most of the Greek pantheon fell to corruption yes. And became known as their new persona's in the Roman version. Harry's talk with Hades touches on the idea. An so does the soul gaze with Thomas actually imo.
Wicked Woodpecker of West:
--- Quote ---So if Nemesis is from the Greek Pantheon, what would that mean exactly? That part; or a single member, of that pantheon was tainted in some unknown way and was cast out of this reality and then spawned the rest of the Outsiders, or took them over if they were already an existing entity in their own universe, and now wants back in with what are either her children or new friends?
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It's possible real Nemesis was also tainted by Adversary once upon a time.
Or if we take more Pratchettian and less Abrahamic vision of Metaphysics - maybe if White God took over as main honcho (not being real Creator but more assuming this mantle due to Abrahamic religions dominations) he forced pagan gods to resign and stop meddling in mortal affairs. But some of them rejected - flew through Outer gates and become a Walkers. This can explain why Walkers are most suitable Outsiders to dwell in this world. Beside is real Nemesis, Behind is of course Euridica, and so on XD
This may also mean Wrestler Olympians Book won't be just quirky funny sidequest before BAT but big important infodump.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on November 14, 2020, 04:39:56 PM ---It's possible real Nemesis was also tainted by Adversary once upon a time.
Or if we take more Pratchettian and less Abrahamic vision of Metaphysics - maybe if White God took over as main honcho (not being real Creator but more assuming this mantle due to Abrahamic religions dominations) he forced pagan gods to resign and stop meddling in mortal affairs. But some of them rejected - flew through Outer gates and become a Walkers. This can explain why Walkers are most suitable Outsiders to dwell in this world. Beside is real Nemesis, Behind is of course Euridica, and so on XD
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It's been suggested that the Outsiders are just obliviated insiders. Maybe in the DF Nemesis was obliviated. I think it's a stretch, but Harry never mentions the similarity between Outsider Nemesis and Greek Nemesis.
Wicked Woodpecker of West:
I'm not sure if Old Gods from Oblivion Wars are the same as Outsiders.
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on November 17, 2020, 09:26:18 PM ---It's been suggested that the Outsiders are just obliviated insiders. Maybe in the DF Nemesis was obliviated. I think it's a stretch, but Harry never mentions the similarity between Outsider Nemesis and Greek Nemesis.
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I don't think they're oblivated, I think they're things we're trying to oblivate. Thing's we've intentionally forgotten most of their identities to keep them from having power here. But also things whose identies were taken from them but who are not yet forgotten.
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